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Subject: Re: how good/bad is the opteron?

Author: Rajen Gupta

Date: 13:43:18 07/08/03

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On July 08, 2003 at 16:34:55, Aaron Gordon wrote:

>On July 08, 2003 at 16:16:00, Rajen Gupta wrote:
>
>>On July 08, 2003 at 15:37:39, Russell Reagan wrote:
>>
>>>On July 08, 2003 at 15:18:55, Rajen Gupta wrote:
>>>
>>>>http://www.amdzone.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=1304
>>>>
>>>>looks like a tie with the pentium 3.2: hardly a pentium killer! my heart bleeds
>>>>for the poor opteron when intel releases a prescott!
>>>
>>>Please post the link to the page where the have the results of the chess program
>>>benchmarking that they did.
>>
>>they didn't: and i am talking of the chip's overall performance as most
>>end-users dont buy a chip for its chess performance only: (even on this forum of
>>die-hard computer chess fanatics its quite probable that there are more intel
>>based systems being used) if this so-called pentium killer does not measure up
>>(and i have a horrible feeling it won't), it will be the end of AMD as we know
>>it; for the last 2 yrs they have been telling us:
>>
>>"never mind the athlon; it is only  stop gap; wait for the hammer; it is going
>>to smash intel;" and finally after endless delays it does show up it appears to
>>be almost geting a smashing itself!
>>
>>if AMD disappears, we will then be subject to intel's monopoly which will be a
>>horrible thing for us all: hence my disappointment with AMD: always too little
>>and too late!
>
>Once stuff gets optimized for the Opteron it'll be much faster, they've got a
>compiler in the works that increases performance quite a bit. Its foolish to
>base the performance of the chip off unoptimized applications. The P4 needs
>optimizations as well, otherwise it gets smoked by the Athlon in everything.
>Also, AMD does have a good selling point no matter what.. "64bit". Most people
>that walk into a store and ask a sales clerk will be like, "Whats the best thing
>to get?".. They'll respond, "This one has a 64bit cpu!!" or something similar.
>:)

i sincerely hope it does happen. i have avoided upgrading so far because of the
long awaited opteron: the whole of last year was a waste because AMD kept
increasing the PR+ numbers while actually decreasing the speed of the CPU! to
give the devil his due, intel on the other hand incresed FSB; level 2 cache as
well as speed!

btw aaron: i hope u find a way to overclock the opterons! i will be your first
customer!



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