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Subject: Re: GK's "last stand for humanity"

Author: Joe McCarro

Date: 10:25:54 07/24/03

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It would seem to me that some of these lower rated players (well lower than Gary
or Kramnik : ) That can beat computers should just play some matches with them.
Even if they dont get paid they will get publicity if they "beat the machine
Gary and Kramnik can't beat."  Publicity means money later on.

On July 18, 2003 at 07:12:57, David H. McClain wrote:

>>
>>I would say it's true that the top players on their best days will defeat the
>>machine...but will succumb when their game is off...and that's to be expected.
>>
>>Still 2300 players can shock everyone by beating the machine while the 2600
>>rated player becomes another statistic...happens all the time:)
>>
>>Alex
>
>GM Yates,
>
>I agree with you 100%.  Not because you are a GM but because I have had several
>matches exactly like this.  I played a fellow who has an old FIDE rating of
>about 2180.  If he continued to play FIDE matches today he would easily be at
>least an IM.  This person is an excellent anti-computer player and I used
>Shredder against him and could do no better than an even match no matter how I
>tried.  I played Petr Kiriakov using Chessmaster 9000 and had a draw.  To his
>credit he recovered from a very difficult position.  This is why I believe
>someone else should play these matches against the Chessbase programs.  Someone
>who has no fear.  Of course Chessbase would stand to lose everything if an IM
>was chosen to play against their program and they were defeated.  There are
>those out there who are not necessarily rated super GMs that could give as good
>an account of themselves as Kasparov did.
>
>I also have had many games with an unknown GM who played under the Russian
>Federation flag who goes by the name Messir.  They were mostly 15 0 minute games
>and overall he destroyed me, some on time.  He is also a member of ICC.com
>
>The games and specifics I refer to can be provided on Instant Chess.com.  The
>human player's true identify will remain anonymous at his request.  Many of the
>GMs and IMs know him personally and I have the utmost respect for him.



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