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Subject: Re: Bob....how strong Crafty on Blue Pacific (@3.9 trillion p/s)?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 06:55:15 10/30/98

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On October 30, 1998 at 04:44:36, Ernst A. Heinz wrote:

>On October 29, 1998 at 21:58:24, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On October 29, 1998 at 18:27:10, Terry Presgrove wrote:
>>
>>>Bob,Ed programers everywhere....just awe struck by the lastest
>>>super computer just unveiled by V.P. Gore. At 3.9 Trilion calculations
>>>per second just how strong would Crafty , Rebel, any of the comercialy
>>>available programs be? Unless I misunderstood its Over 15,000 times faster
>>>the the fastest PC's currrently available.  More than 5,800
>>>processors....wouldn't it be nice to play around with this baby for just a day?
>>
>>
>>first warning is a large number of processors...  ie it isn't a shared memory
>>machine, which means that it is not easy or efficient to distribute the search
>>on such machines.  If you have seen crafty on a 4 processor machine, and expect
>>that to scale so such a machine, you'll be disappointed...
>>
>>However Sequent makes a 32 processor xeon-based machine that features a
>>shared memory.  *that* would scream...  IE a NPS of something around 10M
>>would be easy...
>
>Hmh, AFAIK the Sequent machines are all NUMA types with a shared
>*address space* but non-uniform memory access times. I sincerely doubt
>that your strongly coupled DTS scales well on such machines.
>
>But I am happy to be proven wrong by experimental results ... :-)
>
>=Ernst=



we had an older one with 30 cpus here until about 3 years ago.  It was a bus
architecture with a flat shared memory design, large cache for each CPU, and
so forth.  I did most of the DTS program development (Cray Blitz parallel
search) on that machine and it was pretty good...

Haven't looked at them specifically in a while...  but there are plenty of
machines around with a symmetrical shared memory...  when you hit NUMA you
suddenly have to start thinking about what is allocated where to optimize
performance...  yet another "issue"...



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