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Subject: Re: Crafty and NUMA

Author: Jeremiah Penery

Date: 06:39:55 09/01/03

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On September 01, 2003 at 06:09:48, Mridul Muralidharan wrote:

>Hi Jeremiah,
>
>  If you want crafty to get to work with a decent speedup on a 16 or 32 CPU
>cc-numa where you have say 2 - 4 processors per node with a significant
>inter-node latency (like most higher cpu numa boxes ?!)  , you will have to
>ensure that the way you split , memory usage , etc is optimal - you dont want to
>access a hash entry in proc 0 from proc 32 when the latency wil be in
>milliseconds !!!

The specific discussion was about Opteron machines up to 8 CPUs, which will all
be contained in one node and have extremely low non-local memory latency.

Any large (multi-node) SMP machine will have the same problem as NUMA with
respect to inter-node latency.  SMP doesn't magically make node-to-node
communication any faster.

But in reality, almost nobody uses a machine that big, especially for chess.
For any but the most extremely scalable architectures, there is significant
diminishing returns when adding processors for chess playing.  I'd say that a
very scalable 8-way SMP or NUMA (Opteron) machine will not be very much slower
than even a 64-way Alpha/Itanium/xxx machine for chess.



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