Author: margolies,marc
Date: 13:22:05 09/11/03
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i also get spam from myself. but I do not refer to replyto info. i am refering to router headings with IP addresses. even when a false one is included, the real one is also there. On September 11, 2003 at 10:57:42, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On September 10, 2003 at 21:52:02, margolies,marc wrote: > >>did you view the headers of any otf this garbage to find the IP address of his >>server? I am sure you can do something about this. > >The headers are trivial to forge. They don't really get used by >anything. I even get SPAM from _myself_ every now and then. > > >> >> >>On September 10, 2003 at 19:55:30, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On September 10, 2003 at 18:43:07, Peter Fendrich wrote: >>> >>>>On September 10, 2003 at 11:55:46, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>> >>>>>On September 10, 2003 at 05:28:32, Peter Fendrich wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>I think you all are as annoyed as I am about all this spam filling my inbox. >>>>>>I have used 3 different email adresses over time in this forum. >>>>>>The first email adress I used was "infected" from start. >>>>>>The second one was used here only and was never mentioned anywhere else until I >>>>>>begun to get spam. >>>>>>The third one has never been used anywhere else than in this forum and now I >>>>>>receive a considerable amount of spam. >>>>>>It is not possible to automatically find these adresses with spider technique >>>>>>because the forum is password protected - you have to sign up before reading it. >>>>>>The addresses must have been catched by someone in this forum - right? >>>>>>Maybe there is some mirror somewhere? >>>>>>Any similar experiences? >>>>>> >>>>>>/Peter >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>It most likely is _not_ a result of selling addresses. web crawlers exist >>>>>that do nothing but grab email addresses. When you send an email, it goes >>>>>thru many machines before reaching the destination. Each machine has the >>>>>opportunity to read the headers and extract your email. >>>>> >>>>>Anytime you visit a web site and supply your email, you suffer the same >>>>>risk. >>>> >>>>Well, part of my spam is about selling email addresses so they are traded >>>>alright. >>>>Anyway your "trick" with servers was new to me. I had kind of innocent view >>>>about these servers... >>>> >>>>The crawling shouldn't work inside this forum at least without a membership but >>>>I've also learned in this thread that there are archives outside the forum. >>>> >>>>I only supply special "spam email" addresses if required but there is another >>>>real risk that we can't do anything about: Anyone putting your email address in >>>>the "Tell your friend about this site - fill in his email address here"-field is >>>>also sending you to spam hell. >>>> >>>>/Peter >>> >>> >>>For about 3 weeks I averaged about 50,000 email messages per day. Some >>>idiot SPAMmer found the email address "majordomo@cis.uab.edu" and chose to >>>use that as his spoofed return address to avoid SPAM filters. Unfortunately >>>for me, he had about 50,000 _bad_ email addresses. His SPAM bounced. Right >>>to me. I had to learn about procmail to get that under control. :) >>> >>>It is a serious problem. It won't be long before we have some regulations >>>with teeth in them that make this extremely expensive for those that get >>>caught...
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