Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 15:51:44 09/22/03
Go up one level in this thread
On September 22, 2003 at 14:24:55, Drexel,Michael wrote: >On September 22, 2003 at 12:50:34, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: > >>On September 21, 2003 at 05:58:50, emerson tan wrote: >> >>>On September 19, 2003 at 11:14:29, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >>> >>>>Hello, >>>> >>>>I'm looking for positions to search very deep with a cpu or 500 which are >>>>interesting to search deep. Seemingly a whole machine must get reserved for DIEP >>>>world champs 2003. The NWO/NCF perhaps needs to pay for the cpu hours also >>>>during the night says SARA (there is 7 organisations involved and i have written >>>>at least 1 page for each processor to get it so i won't even start quoting all >>>>the organisations involved). >>>> >>>>Most jobs run like 2 weeks or so at say for example 32 processors, so all those >>>>jobs cannot get started trivially in the night. >>>> >>>>Anyway more negotiations will be there, because the world champs like this will >>>>cost 80000 cpu hours. >>>> >>>>This is all internal talks. In case any of such scenario happens or even between >>>>rounds when diep finishes sooner its games, there sometimes is a few hours left >>>>to run diep at 500 cpu's at for example 1 position each run. >>>> >>>>that's 250Ghz with around 200GB hashtables in total. >>>> >>>>So this allows some massive deep calculations. I'm looking for cool positions to >>>>try. >>>> >>>>Please don't mention the openings position, i'm already using that now and it >>>>isn't very interesting at all to search that one deep. >>>> >>>>feel free to email to me about this: diep@xs4all.nl >>>> >>>>Best regards, >>>>Vincent >>> >>> >>> I still havent seen a computer find the move here even if it takes several >>>days. The move is correct because white is already holpless in all variations. I >>>tried autoplaying with long time control, both computers cant understand black >>>is winning, but all the games black ended up winning. >>> >>> >>>[D]r3r1k1/pp1q1p2/2p2npb/PPPp1bnp/3PpN2/2N1P1PP/1R1B1PBK/3Q1R2 b - - 0 19 >>> >>>Nikolic - Fischer 1968 >>> >>>The key move is 19 - Bg4!! >>> >>> >>>The next Diagram was mentioned in Kasparov's My Predesessors, Kasparov said no >>>computer can find the move here. >>> >>> >>>[D]2r2rk1/pp3pp1/4bb1p/q2p1P1Q/3P4/2N5/PP4PP/1K1R1B1R b - - 0 17 >>> >>>Pillsbury - Lasker 1896 >>> >>>Key move 17 - Rxc3!! >>> >>> >>>The next one here involves early sacrifice in the opening, there's no forcing >>>line, just for iniative. This became the best played game in one of the 1990 >>>Informator. >>> >>> >>>[D]rn1qk1nr/1b3ppp/p2b4/3p4/P1pP4/5N2/2PNBPPP/R1BQ1RK1 w kq - 0 11 >>> >>>Geller - Dreev 1990 >>> >>>Key move 11. Bxc4!! >> >>Gonna investigate this one. this pos looks very cool. complex middlegame >>with a lot of possibilities. It's the first pos from which i say: "YES this is >>interesting". > >Do you always contradict yourself? what, how, where and when? I guess you're not capable of reading foreign grammar well. this is the first position where mating the opponent directly is not the solution to solving the position. In case people are wondering why most engines are positional so stupid, they should simply look objectively to the positions the CCC droids want to solve. >This is a highly tactical position. The bxc4 move sure is. It isn't a boring "put your opponent mate in X moves" question though. >White is better in all lines. Not at all. if you don't play bxc4 you might lose this game... Also it was one day relevant for openingstheory a lot.
This page took 0 seconds to execute
Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700
Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.