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Subject: Re: Hard study for computer

Author: Thomas Mayer

Date: 16:29:57 10/01/03

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Hi Pierre,

[D]8/k3P3/p3K2n/1n3p2/1N4b1/1P1p1p2/8/4B3 w - - 0 1

Aristarch:

00:00:05  d->11   -3.04  b4c6 !! a7b7 c6a5 b7b6 e1f2 b6a5 e7e8q b5c7 e6d6 c7e8
d6c5 d3d2 f2d4 d2d1q d4c3
00:00:06  d->11  +0.02  b4c6 a7b7 c6a5 b7b6 e1f2 b6a5 e7e8q a5b4 e8c6 b4b3 c6d5
b3c2 d5a2 c2d1 a2b1 d1d2 e6d5

> Tao 5.4 also solved it ,i guess it is because it can't do with
> underpromotion.

i don't think that it has to do anything with underpromotions... it seems to be
a pruning and extension problem - maybe also with nullmove... Quark can also
solve it, but it takes it incredible more depth:

------------ changing mode...
00:00:00  d->07   -1.30  b4c6??
00:00:00  d->07   -1.84  b4c6 a7b7 c6a5 b7b6 a5c4 b6c5 e1f2 c5b4 f2e1 b4b3 c4d2
b3b4 e7e8q f4f3
00:00:00  d->08   -2.14  b4c6?
00:00:01  d->08   -3.14  b4c6??
00:00:01  d->08   -4.04  b4c6 a7b7 c6a5 b7b6 a5c4 b6c5 c4e5 g4h5 e5d3 c5d4 d3e5
d4e4
00:00:02  d->08   -4.03  e7e8r!
00:00:02  d->08   -4.04  b4c6 a7b7 c6a5 b7b6 a5c4 b6c5 c4e5 g4h5 e5d3 c5d4 d3e5
d4e4
00:00:02  d->08   -4.03  e1f2!
00:00:03  d->08   -3.52  e1f2 a7b7 b4d3 b5c7 e6f6 c7e8 f6e6 b7c6 d3f4 a6a5 e6e5
00:00:03  d->08   -3.51  b4d3!
00:00:04  d->08   -2.87  b4d3 g4h5 e6d7 h6g4 d3f4 h5f7 e7e8q g4f6 d7e8
00:00:05  d->09   -3.12  b4d3 g4h5 e6d7 h6g4 e1h4 b5d4 b3b4 g4e3 e7e8q
00:00:08  d->10   -3.14  b4d3 g4h5 e6d7 h6g4 e1h4 b5d4 b3b4 f5f4 d3f4 g4e5 e7e8q
00:00:15  d->10   -3.13  e7e8q!
00:00:15  d->10   -3.14  b4d3 g4h5 e6d7 h6g4 e1h4 b5d4 b3b4 f5f4 d3f4 g4e5 e7e8q
00:00:19  d->11   -3.14  b4d3 g4h5 e1d2 h6g8 e6d7 g8f6 d7e6 f6e4 d2e3 a7b7 e6f5
b5d6 f5f4 b7c6 f4e4
00:00:39  d->12   -2.97  b4d3 g4h5 e1d2 h6g8 e6d7 g8f6 d7e6 f6e8 d2e3 a7b7 d3c5
b7b6 c5d3 b6c7 e6f5 h5f7
00:01:01  d->12   -2.97  b4d3 g4h5 e1d2 h6g8 e6d7 g8f6 d7e6 f6e8 d2e3 a7b7 d3c5
b7b6 c5d3 b6c7 e6f5 h5f7 TBHits:1
00:01:10  d->13   -3.02  b4d3 g4h5 e1d2 h6g8 e6d7 g8f6 d7e6 f6e4 d2e3 a7b7 e6f5
b5c3 f5f4 b7c6 f4e5 TBHits:1
00:02:28  d->13   -3.02  b4d3 g4h5 e1d2 h6g8 e6d7 g8f6 d7e6 f6e4 d2e3 a7b7 e6f5
b5c3 f5f4 b7c6 f4e5 TBHits:6
00:02:50  d->14   -3.14  b4d3 g4h5 e1d2 h6g8 e6d7 a7b7 e7e8n h5e8 d7e8 g8f6 e8e7
f6g4 d2e1 b5d4 d3c5 b7c6 e1b4 b6c5 TBHits:6
00:06:56  d->14   -3.14  b4d3 g4h5 e1d2 h6g8 e6d7 a7b7 e7e8n h5e8 d7e8 g8f6 e8e7
f6g4 d2e1 b5d4 d3c5 b7c6 e1b4 b6c5 TBHits:81
00:07:46  d->15   -3.22  b4d3 g4h5 e1d2 h6g8 e6d7 g8f6 d7e6 f6e4 d2e3 a7b7 e6f5
b5d6 f5e6 b7c7 e3d4 h5e8 e6d5 a6a5 TBHits:88
00:19:24  d->15   -3.22  b4d3 g4h5 e1d2 h6g8 e6d7 g8f6 d7e6 f6e4 d2e3 a7b7 e6f5
b5d6 f5e6 b7c7 e3d4 h5e8 e6d5 a6a5 TBHits:817
00:21:28  d->16   -3.24  b4d3 g4h5 e1d2 h6g8 e6d7 g8f6 d7e6 f6e4 d2e3 a7b7 e6f5
b5d6 f5f4 b7c7 d3f2 e4f2 e3f2 d6e8 f4e4 d7e7 TBHits:862
00:54:49  d->16   -3.24  b4d3 g4h5 e1d2 h6g8 e6d7 g8f6 d7e6 f6e4 d2e3 a7b7 e6f5
b5d6 f5f4 b7c7 d3f2 e4f2 e3f2 d6e8 f4e4 d7e7 TBHits:5485
01:04:38  d->17   -3.51  b4d3 g4h5 e1d2 h6g8 e6d7 g8f6 d7e6 f6e4 d2e3 a7b7 e6f5
b5d6 f5f4 b7c7 d3c5 e4c5 e3c5 c7d7 c5d6 d7d6 c5f2 TBHits:5698
01:18:18  d->17   -3.50  b4c6! TBHits:6065
01:25:16  d->17   -2.50  b4c6!! TBHits:7595

and still calculating... you see: ply 11 Aristarch, ply 9 SmarThink, ply 17
Quark... THAT is a big difference...

Greets, Thomas



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