Author: Mike Byrne
Date: 05:19:33 10/18/03
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On October 18, 2003 at 00:20:49, Drexel,Michael wrote: >üOn October 17, 2003 at 19:59:41, Mike Byrne wrote: > >> >>>>>No, I have only an old Genius 6. >>>> >>>>I'm talking about Pocket Genius >>> >>>Yes, I know >>> >>> - do you have that? >>> >>>No, I have Pocket Grandmaster 2.1 and PF2 installed on my device so far. >>>So we could only compare with that. I hope there would be not much difference >>>unless you overclock your Axim of course. >>> >>>I get only 23500 nps with Ruffian 1.0.4 (8MB) after 30 sec. >>>On desktops Ruffian shows usually 3x the knps of Shredder 7 in a position. >>>On Pocket PCs the knps are almost equal. >> >>I am not making myself clear,. The comparision to make is PCG on a Dell Axim >>with PPC 2002 with ROM A01 (your unit) to the same unit that has WM2003 with ROM >>A05 (my unit). My understanding is that there is a difference between the two >>versions PCG 1.4 and PCG 1.5 and and the two different Axim configurations (your >>unit and my unit). I say that becuase Richard was surprised how much faster my >>unit with WM 2003 was than his XScale Pprocessor with PPC 2002. If you decide >>to acquire PCG 1.5 we would be able to make the comparisions. >> >>For example - on a 6 positions that were tested, there were the results. >> >>ChessGenius 1.43 on ViewSonic Xscale 300Mhz with Pocket PC 2002 and 64kb Hash >>averages 24,809 positions per second >> >>ChessGenius 1.5beta3 on ViewSonic Xscale 300Mhz with Pocket PC 2002 and 64kb >>Hash averages 32,479 positions per second. >> >>ChessGenius 1.5beta3 on ASUS MYPAL Xscale 400Mhz with Pocket PC 2002 and 64kb >>Hash averages 57,969 positions per second. >> >>ChessGenius 1.5beta3 on Dell Axim Xscale 400Mhz with Pocket PC 2003 and 64kb >>Hash averages 69,745 positions per second. >> >>ChessGenius 1.5beta3 on Dell Axim Xscale 400Mhz oc to 472 Mhz with Pocket PC >>2003 and 64kb Hash averages 82,141 positions per second. >> >>Your unit, with PPC 2002 A01 ROM, is a good unit to compare PC 2002 to PPC 2003 >>on an Dell Axim running CG 1.5 vs Cg 1.4. CG 1.5 was optimized for PPC 2003. > >Yes, a unit with PPC 2002 would be a good unit to compare. >But as I wrote in a posting above, I dont have a unit with PPC 2002. >My Version says 4.20.1081 (Build 13100). This is Windows Mobile 20003. oops - I must have misread your post - so you have Wm 2003 and ROM A01 - that would still be an excellent test as I have ROM A05and supposedly there is a difference between the ROM A01 and ROM A05 under WM2003 ...unless I misread your earlier post reagrding your ROM version...let me know... > >> >>I have CG and I can tell you that I can not tell on my Axim with A05 ROM and PPC >>2003 - which program is stronger PCG or PF2. > >Of course, I also can not tell if PF2 or Ruffian 1.04 is stronger >on my unit although my guess is that PF2 should be at least 50 points stronger. >PF2 has own book,bigger Hashtables and the nps of Ruffian are usually not so >high as you would expect. > >The Pocket Grandmaster GUI is very nice it has even delete Hashtables option. >What I don't like is that both GUIs do not show any Book moves. > >Michael > >> >>Let me know when you get it -- and I can provide the test positions to you. >>This would be an excellent test. If you purchase PCG, I am sure Richard can >>provide you with CG 1.4 that has the node counter so we can have he ultimate >>comparision. > > >> >> CG 1.4 CG 1.5 >> >>Dell Axim PPC 2002 ROM 01 XXXXX XXXXX >>Dell Axim PPC 2003 ROM 05 XXXXX XXXXX >> >>BTW, Most of the positions are solved fastest by PCG and Richard did not have >>that knowledge when he provided the test positons to me. >> >>Best, >> >>Michael
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