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Subject: Re: Will Dell Axim x5 (400 mhz 64mb sdram ) andance suport pocket fritz ?

Author: Drexel,Michael

Date: 21:20:49 10/17/03

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üOn October 17, 2003 at 19:59:41, Mike Byrne wrote:

>
>>>>No, I have only an old Genius 6.
>>>
>>>I'm talking about Pocket Genius
>>
>>Yes, I know
>>
>> - do you have that?
>>
>>No, I have Pocket Grandmaster 2.1 and PF2 installed on my device so far.
>>So we could only compare with that. I hope there would be not much difference
>>unless you overclock your Axim of course.
>>
>>I get only 23500 nps with Ruffian 1.0.4 (8MB) after 30 sec.
>>On desktops Ruffian shows usually 3x the knps of Shredder 7 in a position.
>>On Pocket PCs the knps are almost equal.
>
>I am not making myself clear,.   The comparision to make is PCG on a Dell Axim
>with PPC 2002 with ROM A01 (your unit) to the same unit that has WM2003 with ROM
>A05 (my unit).  My understanding is that there is a difference between the two
>versions PCG 1.4 and PCG 1.5 and and the two different Axim configurations (your
>unit and my unit).  I say that becuase Richard was surprised how much faster my
>unit with WM 2003 was than his XScale Pprocessor with PPC 2002.  If you decide
>to acquire PCG 1.5 we would be able to make the comparisions.
>
>For example - on a 6 positions that were tested, there were the results.
>
>ChessGenius 1.43 on ViewSonic Xscale 300Mhz with Pocket PC 2002 and 64kb Hash
>averages 24,809 positions per second
>
>ChessGenius 1.5beta3 on ViewSonic Xscale 300Mhz with Pocket PC 2002 and 64kb
>Hash averages 32,479 positions per second.
>
>ChessGenius 1.5beta3 on ASUS MYPAL Xscale 400Mhz with Pocket PC 2002 and 64kb
>Hash averages 57,969 positions per second.
>
>ChessGenius 1.5beta3 on Dell Axim Xscale 400Mhz with Pocket PC 2003 and 64kb
>Hash averages 69,745 positions per second.
>
>ChessGenius 1.5beta3 on Dell Axim Xscale 400Mhz oc to 472 Mhz with Pocket PC
>2003 and 64kb Hash averages 82,141 positions per second.
>
>Your unit, with PPC 2002 A01 ROM, is a good unit to compare PC 2002 to PPC 2003
>on an  Dell Axim running CG 1.5 vs Cg 1.4. CG 1.5 was optimized for PPC 2003.

Yes, a unit with PPC 2002 would be a good unit to compare.
But as I wrote in a posting above, I dont have a unit with PPC 2002.
My Version says 4.20.1081 (Build 13100). This is Windows Mobile 20003.

>
>I have CG and I can tell you that I can not tell on my Axim with A05 ROM and PPC
>2003 - which program is stronger PCG or PF2.

Of course, I also can not tell if PF2 or Ruffian 1.04 is stronger
on my unit although my guess is that PF2 should be at least 50 points stronger.
PF2 has own book,bigger Hashtables and the nps of Ruffian are usually not so
high as you would expect.

The Pocket Grandmaster GUI is very nice it has even delete Hashtables option.
What I don't like is that both GUIs do not show any Book moves.

Michael

>
>Let me know when you get it -- and I can provide the test positions to you.
>This would be an excellent test.  If you purchase PCG, I am sure Richard can
>provide you with CG 1.4 that has the node counter so we can have he ultimate
>comparision.


>
>                                   CG 1.4  CG 1.5
>
>Dell Axim PPC 2002 ROM 01           XXXXX   XXXXX
>Dell Axim PPC 2003 ROM 05           XXXXX   XXXXX
>
>BTW, Most of the positions are solved fastest by PCG and Richard did not have
>that knowledge when he provided the test positons to me.
>
>Best,
>
>Michael



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