Computer Chess Club Archives


Search

Terms

Messages

Subject: Re: SSDF Rating List Less Chessmaster? Why?

Author: Mike S.

Date: 10:03:24 10/21/03

Go up one level in this thread


On October 21, 2003 at 04:55:19, Mogens Larsen wrote:

>(...) As I
>understand it, the purpose is testing the "default" settings, not more or less
>ad hoc changes that may or may not be stronger.

Testing the CM9000 default personality is useless by now.

Did you never open a CM9000 personalities thread, in CCC?

I didn't mean ad hoc changes, but well known tweaks which have been proven to be
stronger in thousands! of games. This is known for a long time now, that the CM
defaults are not the strongest settings for The King, on up to date hardware
against other chess programs. This is not a "may or maybe not" case: These
settings are definetely much stronger. Ask the experts, i.e. Kurt Utzinger:

http://www.utzingerkurt.com/cm9_skr_report.htm

On other ratings lists, King 3.23 runs at least with selectivity changed to 12,
and of course larger hash (default would be only 4 MB). My recommended settings
(with ks 150/150 in addition) are an "easy derivative" of successfull settings,
which usually have increased king safety settings in common.

There is no audience for SSDF tests of the CM defaults IMO, because every
serious King "nerd" just doesn't use them. - That's so obvious, also known from
a lot of CCC threads, tournament results etc. that I suspect you don't really
know what this is all about. Of course your'e not obliged :-)) to know every
detail of every progam, I do neither, but the quality of arguments is related to
the information they are based on.

When you say you don't see the attraction of The King being tested, than I think
you said this from the theoretical viewpoint of the publisher (?). For the
computerchess fans, I don't see why it should be less attractive than to test
Hiarcs or why testing Rebel should be more attractive than King, etc. These are
all top engines, and King 3.23 is one of them, but missing in the list still.

Regards,
Mike Scheidl



This page took 0 seconds to execute

Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700

Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.