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Subject: Re: Junior and fritz mark

Author: Mark Young

Date: 01:33:57 11/10/98

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On November 10, 1998 at 04:19:01, blass uri wrote:

>
>On November 10, 1998 at 02:15:31, Mark Young wrote:
>
>>On November 10, 1998 at 01:56:10, blass uri wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>On November 09, 1998 at 22:27:03, Mark Young wrote:
>>>
>>>>Game 24
>>>>
>>>>Fritz 5 10.5
>>>>
>>>>Junior5 13.5
>>>>
>>>>The match ends after 24 games. Junior 5 finshed strong with two wins in the last
>>>>two games to take the match be 3 games. Well done Junior 5 and Amir. There can
>>>>be no doubt from the games I have seen that Junior 5 is one of the strongest
>>>>programs currently out, if not the strongest in computer Vs computer chess. Well
>>>>done.
>>>
>>>what is your Junior mark(fritz mark) and how many nodes Junior  see per second?
>>>
>>>I ran the long test twice with fritz5(pentium200MMX, 45056 hash,windows95)
>>>
>>>The fritz's mark in the long test(45056 Kbytes hash) was 142 with 222 or 223
>>>knodes per second
>>>(If I give fritz5 244992 Kbytes the fritz mark is 152)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I ran the long test twice with Junior5(pentium200MMX, 45056 hash,windows95)
>>>
>>>
>>>The Junior's mark in the second test  was 124 with 140 knodes per second.
>>>
>>>I think there was a problem with the system in the first test(Junior's mark 106
>>>with 120 Knodes per second) and I do not take it seriously
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>Now my P II 333 that I ran the games on Junior 5 mark was.
>>
>>224 279KNS Short
>>240 272KNS Long
>
>240/124 times faster than the my hardware(my hardware is identical to the ssdf
>list hardware)
>
>I think that Junior earned more from PII 333(relatively to P200MMX) than fritz5
>
>If Junior5 is 20% faster (relatively to fritz5) because of this reason then it
>can cause near 20 elo difference and the expected result in my hardware should
>be 11:9 for Junior5 instead of 11.5:8.5

A P200MMX is geting no speed advantage from running 32 bit programs. I find that
it ran 16 and 32 bit programs at the same speed. PPRO 200 and P II get a big
jump in speed for 32 bit program. I don't know if this holds true with chess
programs, but I think it would.

It looks like Junior 5 gets stronger faster the longer it thinks Vs. Fritz 5.
The faster time control games I did showed Junior 5 and Fritz 5 as equal.
>
>Uri



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