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Subject: Re: Junior and fritz mark

Author: Hans Christian Lykke

Date: 00:45:05 11/11/98

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On November 10, 1998 at 04:33:57, Mark Young wrote:

>On November 10, 1998 at 04:19:01, blass uri wrote:
>
>>
>>On November 10, 1998 at 02:15:31, Mark Young wrote:
>>
>>>On November 10, 1998 at 01:56:10, blass uri wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>On November 09, 1998 at 22:27:03, Mark Young wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Game 24
>>>>>
>>>>>Fritz 5 10.5
>>>>>
>>>>>Junior5 13.5
>>>>>
>>>>>The match ends after 24 games. Junior 5 finshed strong with two wins in the last
>>>>>two games to take the match be 3 games. Well done Junior 5 and Amir. There can
>>>>>be no doubt from the games I have seen that Junior 5 is one of the strongest
>>>>>programs currently out, if not the strongest in computer Vs computer chess. Well
>>>>>done.
>>>>
>>>>what is your Junior mark(fritz mark) and how many nodes Junior  see per second?
>>>>
>>>>I ran the long test twice with fritz5(pentium200MMX, 45056 hash,windows95)
>>>>
>>>>The fritz's mark in the long test(45056 Kbytes hash) was 142 with 222 or 223
>>>>knodes per second
>>>>(If I give fritz5 244992 Kbytes the fritz mark is 152)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I ran the long test twice with Junior5(pentium200MMX, 45056 hash,windows95)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The Junior's mark in the second test  was 124 with 140 knodes per second.
>>>>
>>>>I think there was a problem with the system in the first test(Junior's mark 106
>>>>with 120 Knodes per second) and I do not take it seriously
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>Now my P II 333 that I ran the games on Junior 5 mark was.
>>>
>>>224 279KNS Short
>>>240 272KNS Long
>>
>>240/124 times faster than the my hardware(my hardware is identical to the ssdf
>>list hardware)
>>
>>I think that Junior earned more from PII 333(relatively to P200MMX) than fritz5
>>
>>If Junior5 is 20% faster (relatively to fritz5) because of this reason then it
>>can cause near 20 elo difference and the expected result in my hardware should
>>be 11:9 for Junior5 instead of 11.5:8.5
>
>A P200MMX is geting no speed advantage from running 32 bit programs. I find that
>it ran 16 and 32 bit programs at the same speed. PPRO 200 and P II get a big
>jump in speed for 32 bit program. I don't know if this holds true with chess
>programs, but I think it would.
>
>It looks like Junior 5 gets stronger faster the longer it thinks Vs. Fritz 5.
>The faster time control games I did showed Junior 5 and Fritz 5 as equal.
>>
>>Uri


Here are some of my Fritz and Junior marks/KnS

Pentium200MMX SDram, 45056 hash, Windows 95


Desktop				Notebook

		Fritz 5.00

Short: 137/209			119/213
Long: 181/226			135/227


		Junior 5.0

Short: 120/149			119/149
Long: 128/145			127/144

Venlig hilsen

Hans Chr.




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