Author: Mike Byrne
Date: 15:04:22 10/28/03
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On October 27, 2003 at 08:33:59, Ulrich Tuerke wrote: >On October 26, 2003 at 16:22:04, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On October 26, 2003 at 16:03:11, Peter Berger wrote: >> >>>On October 26, 2003 at 15:29:46, Uri Blass wrote: >>> >>>>I believe that movei of today is slightly weaker than Genius2 but I guess that >>>>6.5-1.5 is too high to give the correct difference. >>> >>>Let's wait and see. After 3 games with same conditions the score Yace-Genius 2 >>>is 1.5-1.5 ( 3 draws) >>> >>>I'll be on travel for some days, see you. >> >>I will try to improve movei and >>my plan is to try to get improvement in order of moves in the near future. >> >>It seems that Genius was relatively lucky to get endgames with passed pawns for >>both sides. > >Formerly, I would let Comet often play against Genius. Several times, I had >observed that Lang must have implemented some very smart knowlege regarding >passed pawn races. > >Whatever it is, it is effective (and it's a secrete, I guess). > >Regards, >Uli Genius was know as the best chess program endgame player back in the early 90's. Take this position: [d] 8/p7/1k6/2pK4/8/8/7P/8 - - w This position should be simple for engines on fast processors - even without EGTB. Test this position on your handheld or dedicated machine. Pocket Chess Genius on A Dell Axim (oc to 600 Mhz) with 16 MB hash "sees" that is is winning with a plus 7 score in 2 seconds! > > >> >>I do not see this kind of endgame so often in games of movei against other >>players. >> >>The same Movei that you tested play in another tournament and it got endgames in >>all of its games >> >>It has 2.5/3 against gaviota,Dorky and Beowulf >> >>It won equal or better endgames and drew an inferior endgame so I do not feel >>that endgame is a major weakness of it inspite of the fact that it does not >>search deep enough. >> >>> >>>> >>>>Maybe in a long match it can be even worse because movei has almost no >>>>learning except learning to change first move after seeing a bad evaluation >>>>against itself(If I remember correctly more than 5 pawns against itself) that >>>>prevents losing the same game twice in a match of 4 games. >>>> >>> >>>Genius 2 has no learner at all. >>> >>>Peter >> >>In this case there is no problem and if the book of genius2 is big enough the >>learner of movei has also no influence. >> >>Uri
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