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Subject: Re: Chessmaster and SSDF

Author: Tord Romstad

Date: 01:57:31 11/11/98

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On November 10, 1998 at 18:36:53, Les Walker wrote:

>On November 10, 1998 at 10:53:16, Tord Romstad wrote:
>
>>On November 10, 1998 at 08:57:48, Les Walker wrote:
>>
>>>Personally, I think the autoplayer issue is BS, especially in light of the
>>>current controvery of autoplayers. If it were my rating list, I would truely
>>>want to know which program is strongest. It is the nature of computer/chess
>>>enthusiests. Tell me you are not interested in knowing who the true champion is.
>>>BTW - I have also heard the "it takes time and money" argument. It does not
>>>hold water either.
>>
>>Why is this so terribly hard to understand?  The SSDF currently does not have
>>any members who wants to spend thousands of hours testing programs manually.
>>How are they supposed to test CM6000?
>
>The concept you mention is easy enough to understand. I just disagree. IMO - the
>SSDF list should be taken as seriously as the MTV Music Awards, or the Academy
>Awards programs.

Everyone is free to take the list excactly as seriously as (s)he wants.
The list is made mainly for fun, not for some scientific purpose.  Actually
I personally don't think the list gives a very accurate picture of the
relative playing strengths of the top programs, particularly not against
humans (it wouldn't surprise me if CM6K was stronger than Fritz and Junior
against humans, for instance.  Personally, I have much bigger problems playing
against the King than against Junior).

>Why don't we just agree to disagree and leave it it that. You have your opinion
>about the SSDF list, and I have mine. I simply posted my "opinion," not provable
>facts, as it is not important to me, much like the MTV awards.

It seems that our disagreement isn't that big anyway.  We both agree that
it would be nice to have CM6K included on the list, but unfortunately this
is impossible for practical reasons at the moment.  We also agree that the
list should not be taken too seriously.

Tord



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