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Subject: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: The 2004 North American CC Championship

Author: Brian Richardson

Date: 20:37:06 11/05/03

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On November 04, 2003 at 19:24:25, Steven Edwards wrote:

>On November 04, 2003 at 18:47:02, Peter Kappler wrote:
>
>>Are you aware of the CCT tournaments that have been played on ICC?  We've had 5
>>of these since 2000, with increasingly good turnouts each year.  The last event
>>had 45 entries.
>
>Yes.  But not everyone has an ICC membership.  They are not free.  I want this
>to be a free event without any commercial interests upon the part of the
>organizer.  The entrants will be playing solely for their own benefit, not for
>spectators who've paid an organizer who in turn does not pay the entrants.
>

Actually, ICC has allowed free memeberships for several of the last CCT events
for program authors for a couple of weeks before the tournament to get ready and
of course during the event, IIRC.

As one of what might be 100 authors who would not make a top "24 cut"
what is wrong with the CCT format?

>>1) Why limit participation to 24 programs?  I think it's much better to take as
>>many entries as possible, even if it means playing a Swiss instead of a
>>round-robin.
>
>A round robin event produces a much clearer picture of the relative playing
>strengths of the entrants.  The limit of 24 entrants should be sufficient to
>cover all the active authors with a few slots in reserve.  All of the great
>human tounaments have been round robins.

This is a computer event, not human...

>
>>2) I hope I'm wrong, but it sounds like you are planning to develop a server for
>>this.  Why?  ICC works perfectly fine, and they are willing to give free
>>accounts to program authors.  My program already understands 3 protocols:
>>Winboard, UCI, and ICC.  I'm not excited about adding support for another.
>
>I wrote "well documented".  I didn't say "new".  Be careful when making
>assumptions.
>
>Not all program authors have a free ICC account.  In the ICC documentation, a
>"free" program account is given only if the author already has paid for a
>regular account.

See above...

>
>As for the main FICS server, I can't even get an account because their
>registration program thinks that my email domain is for free (and hence
>irresponsible) usage.  In fact, I have to pay US$100 per year for it.
>
>The server used will be a dual P3 Intel rackmount running RH9 Linux.  A backup

Pretty wimpy...why not let authors run their own hardware?

>AMD single CPU will be available.  Unlike the ICC, the server will be run
>exclusively for the entrants so there should be plenty of CPU power available.
>The server IP and passwords will be restricted to the entrants so there should
>be little chance of excess loading.

You must be joking...the fun of the CCT events is the live chat and
participation...it also draws many human observers too.
>
>>3) One game per day in the middle of the day?  Most of us have day jobs, so we
>>won't be able to watch the games.  One of the great things about the CCT
>>tourneys is the weekend format makes it possible for the programmers to be
>>online, chatting and commenting during the games.  This is loads of fun - and
>>the main reason for participating in these tourneys, IMO.
>
>One of the tests of the entrants is the ability to play autonomously.  There is
>no one time period during the day that will please everyone.

The seek formula can handle most cases pretty automatically...
>
>I will make myself available for technical assistance during all scheduled
>playing time plus for at least two hours prior to the start of play each day.  I
>assure all entrants that running a smooth event will be my only priority; I have
>no commercial chess interests at all.
>
>>4) Why the title "North American" championship?  What's North American about it
>>other than possibly the location of the server and the home address of the
>>organizer?
>
>It has been a long time (nine years?) since there has been an exclusively North
>American event.  It is intended, in part, as a prelude to physical North
>American events.  These will be an alternative to the European events that,
>while certainly worthwhile, do little to stimulate CC activity in North America.

I don't think it should be "North American" as a virtual tournament...
you could call one that if it were being held in person, but why restrict...


My suggestion is to contact the past CCT tournament directors for their comments
and suggestions.  They have almost always run pretty smoothly and
have been great fun.  I appreciate your enthusiasim, but let's look at
continuing and expanding an existing tradition before starting yet another
one...



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