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Subject: Re: Intel four-way 2.8 Ghz system is just Amazing ! - Not hardly

Author: Matthew Hull

Date: 10:18:48 11/12/03

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On November 12, 2003 at 12:18:22, Anthony Cozzie wrote:

>On November 12, 2003 at 11:55:20, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>
>>On November 11, 2003 at 23:42:45, Eugene Nalimov wrote:
>>
>>>My point is: it's possible that due to the fact that quad Opteron is NUMA -- >not SMP -- system, for SMP-only program performance on quad Opteron can be
>>>worse than on *real* quad SMP system, even when for one CPU Opteron
>>>performance is much better. Itanium was used only as an example of such
>>>system, I never recommended rewriting any program for it.
>>
>>I don't understand how. The NUMA part is RAM. Even worst case on the Opteron
>>RAM is faster than Xeon SMP. So how could it ever be worse?
>>
>>--
>>GCP
>
>Aaron's argument is: if a 1x opteron is faster than a 1x Xeon, a 4x opteron will
>be faster than a 4x Xeon.
>
>Nalimov is saying that Fritz may scale worse on the opteron due to NUMA issues.
>In other words, this is comparing latency with 1x opteron and NUMA opteron
>relative to 1x Xeon vs SMP Xeon.
>
>Off hand this seems logical to me . . .

Perhaps Eugene can tell us if SMP crafty was slower on 2x opteron than Bob's 2x
Xeon, before the NUMA mods were made?

MH

>
>anthony



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