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Subject: Re: No progress since deep fritz 7 !

Author: Bob Durrett

Date: 07:16:27 11/16/03

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On November 16, 2003 at 05:55:03, Mark Young wrote:

>On November 16, 2003 at 05:20:04, Gerhard Sonnabend wrote:
>
>>Hi !
>>
>>As you can see since (deep)fritz 7 there is no progress against other engines.
>>It looks like that frans has tried to optimize his creation for playing
>>against strong humans - a good decision.
>>
>>P3-Rating-List (30m/g = rapidchess)
>>
>>   Program            Elo    +   -  Games   Score    Av.Op. Draws
>> 1 Shredder 7.04     2760   27  38   358    69.3 %   2619   26.3 %
>>...
>> 5 Deep Fritz 7      2699   19  22   815    65.1 %   2591   31.3 %
>>...
>> 8 Fritz 8.0.0.26    2698   24  27   520    64.0 %   2597   30.4 %
>> 9 Fritz 7.0.0.2     2696   22  24   608    64.7 %   2591   35.7 %
>>10 Fritz 8.0.0.23    2696   23  24   597    62.6 %   2606   32.2 %
>>...
>>12 Fritz 8.0.0.5     2695   22  24   607    64.7 %   2590   33.4 %
>>...
>>15 Fritz 7.0.0.6     2681   23  23   620    62.0 %   2596   34.4 %
>>..
>>17 Deep Fritz 6      2675   21  21   688    62.9 %   2583   37.2 %
>>
>>The complete list and more you can find on:
>>www.pcschach.de
>>
>>Best G.S
>
>X3D Fritz still needs some positional understanding playing humans. Tactically
>Fritz holds its own even against GM Kasparov, and with an awesome defensive
>skill Fritz is very hard to beat.
>
>I am not sure if X3D Fritz is better then Shredder 7.04 looking at the games.


Unfortunately, we have no information as to how Shredder would perform on the
very fast computer being used for the Kasparov games.

Bob D.


>With X3D Fritz's positonal errors in game 2 for example. Moves 9. d4? move 17.
>Rb1?! and move 20 N3d2?! look to be positionally wrong.
>
>It is very hard to judge for sure after only 2 games and X3D Fritz up +1 against
>the strongest human player in history.



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