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Subject: Re: No progress since deep fritz 7 !

Author: Kurt Utzinger

Date: 09:37:21 11/16/03

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On November 16, 2003 at 10:16:27, Bob Durrett wrote:

>On November 16, 2003 at 05:55:03, Mark Young wrote:
>
>>On November 16, 2003 at 05:20:04, Gerhard Sonnabend wrote:
>>
>>>Hi !
>>>
>>>As you can see since (deep)fritz 7 there is no progress against other engines.
>>>It looks like that frans has tried to optimize his creation for playing
>>>against strong humans - a good decision.
>>>
>>>P3-Rating-List (30m/g = rapidchess)
>>>
>>>   Program            Elo    +   -  Games   Score    Av.Op. Draws
>>> 1 Shredder 7.04     2760   27  38   358    69.3 %   2619   26.3 %
>>>...
>>> 5 Deep Fritz 7      2699   19  22   815    65.1 %   2591   31.3 %
>>>...
>>> 8 Fritz 8.0.0.26    2698   24  27   520    64.0 %   2597   30.4 %
>>> 9 Fritz 7.0.0.2     2696   22  24   608    64.7 %   2591   35.7 %
>>>10 Fritz 8.0.0.23    2696   23  24   597    62.6 %   2606   32.2 %
>>>...
>>>12 Fritz 8.0.0.5     2695   22  24   607    64.7 %   2590   33.4 %
>>>...
>>>15 Fritz 7.0.0.6     2681   23  23   620    62.0 %   2596   34.4 %
>>>..
>>>17 Deep Fritz 6      2675   21  21   688    62.9 %   2583   37.2 %
>>>
>>>The complete list and more you can find on:
>>>www.pcschach.de
>>>
>>>Best G.S
>>
>>X3D Fritz still needs some positional understanding playing humans. Tactically
>>Fritz holds its own even against GM Kasparov, and with an awesome defensive
>>skill Fritz is very hard to beat.
>>
>>I am not sure if X3D Fritz is better then Shredder 7.04 looking at the games.
>
>
>Unfortunately, we have no information as to how Shredder would perform on the
>very fast computer being used for the Kasparov games.
>
>Bob D.
>
>
>>With X3D Fritz's positonal errors in game 2 for example. Moves 9. d4? move 17.
>>Rb1?! and move 20 N3d2?! look to be positionally wrong.

     According to Kasparov 17.Rb1 is an interesting move and
     not at all a bad one.
     Kurt




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