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Subject: Re: Where did Fritz go wrong? (NT) Comp eval out of book.

Author: Mark Young

Date: 19:37:13 11/16/03

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On November 16, 2003 at 22:21:22, Mark Young wrote:

>On November 16, 2003 at 19:45:47, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On November 16, 2003 at 19:23:14, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On November 16, 2003 at 19:12:42, rait wrote:
>>>
>>>>got wrong-wery closed (not suiteble) opening variation and then had no good
>>>>strategy if any...
>>>
>>>I will ask the question in a different way.
>>>
>>>What is the move that changed the theoretical result of the game from draw to
>>>win for kasparov?
>>>
>>>I think that the answer is going to be we do not know because unfortunately or
>>>firtunately we did not solve chess.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>I can think of a couple.  the early a6.  The f4 move that really crystallized
>>the pawn structure.  Pushing a5 isolating that pawn.  Once the pawn structure
>>was defined, it became imperative that black advance on the kingside as white
>>owned the queen-side.  Black fiddled while Rome burned.
>
>You are correct. A very bad sideline to play, Fritz was positionally lost it
>seems out of book or very close to being lost. I have 9..Qc7 as the last book
>move and the position is very poor for black.
>
>You can get away with playing sidelines as white and still have a good position,
>but with black you can have your head handed to you on a silver platter as Fritz
>found out.

New game - Shredder 7.04
[d]r1bqkb1r/1p1n1ppp/2p2n2/pPPpp3/Q2P4/2N1PN2/P4PPP/R1B1KB1R b KQkq - 0 1

Analysis by Shredder 7.04:

9...Bxc5 10.dxc5 Nxc5
  +-  (1.87)   Depth: 1/3   00:00:00
9...Bxc5 10.dxc5 Nxc5
  +-  (1.59)   Depth: 1/5   00:00:00
9...cxb5 10.Nxe5
  ²  (0.67)   Depth: 1/5   00:00:00
9...cxb5 10.Bxb5 exd4
  ²  (0.67)   Depth: 1/5   00:00:00
9...exd4 10.Qxd4
  ²  (0.65)   Depth: 1/7   00:00:00
9...exd4 10.exd4
  ²  (0.55)   Depth: 1/7   00:00:00
9...exd4 10.exd4 Qe7+ 11.Be3
  ±  (0.75)   Depth: 2/7   00:00:00
9...Qc7 10.Be2
  ±  (0.71)   Depth: 2/8   00:00:00
9...Qc7 10.Be2
  ±  (0.71)   Depth: 2/8   00:00:00
9...Qc7 10.Be2
  ±  (0.71)   Depth: 3/3   00:00:00
9...Qc7 10.Be2
  ±  (0.71)   Depth: 4/4   00:00:00
9...Qc7 10.Be2
  ±  (0.71)   Depth: 5/9   00:00:00
9...Qc7 10.Be2
  ±  (0.71)   Depth: 6/12   00:00:00
9...Qc7 10.Be2
  ±  (0.71)   Depth: 7/11   00:00:00  40kN
9...Qc7 10.Be2
  ±  (0.71)   Depth: 8/8   00:00:00  99kN
9...Qc7 10.Be2
  ±  (0.71)   Depth: 9/15   00:00:01  275kN
9...Qc7 10.Be2
  ±  (0.71)   Depth: 10/16   00:00:01  435kN
9...Qc7 10.Be2 cxb5 11.Bxb5 Be7 12.dxe5 Bxc5
  ±  (0.71)   Depth: 11/18   00:00:03  839kN
9...Qc7 10.Be2 cxb5 11.Bxb5 Be7
  ±  (0.71)   Depth: 12/22   00:00:06  1704kN
9...Qc7 10.Be2 cxb5 11.Bxb5 Be7
  ±  (0.71)   Depth: 13/24   00:00:12  3523kN
9...Qc7 10.Be2 Be7 11.0-0 0-0 12.Ba3 Re8 13.Rae1 e4 14.b6 Qb8 15.Qc2 exf3
16.Qxh7+ Kxh7
  ²  (0.57)   Depth: 14/31   00:01:33  26058kN
9...Qc7 10.Be2 Be7 11.0-0 0-0 12.Bb2 Re8 13.Rae1 e4 14.Nd2 Nf8 15.b6 Qb8 16.f3
exf3
  ²  (0.52)   Depth: 15/39   00:03:11  53021kN

(Young, MyTown 16.11.2003)


New game - Shredder 7.04
r1bqkb1r/1p1n1ppp/2p2n2/pPPpp3/Q2P4/2N1PN2/P4PPP/R1B1KB1R b KQkq - 0 1

Analysis by Crafty 19.03:

9...cxb5 10.Bxb5
  ²  (0.28)   Depth: 1/15   00:00:00
9...cxb5 10.Bxb5
  ²  (0.28)   Depth: 2/15   00:00:00
9...cxb5 10.Bxb5 e4
  ²  (0.35)   Depth: 3/15   00:00:00
9...cxb5 10.Bxb5 e4 11.Ne5
  ²  (0.47)   Depth: 4/15   00:00:00
9...exd4 10.exd4 Qe7+ 11.Be3 Ne4 12.Nxe4 dxe4 13.bxc6 exf3 14.cxd7+ Bxd7
  ²  (0.33)   Depth: 4/15   00:00:00
9...e4 10.Nd2 cxb5 11.Bxb5
  ²  (0.30)   Depth: 4/15   00:00:00
9...e4 10.Ng5 Ng4 11.h4 Qf6
  =  (0.23)   Depth: 5/19   00:00:00
9...e4 10.Nd2 Nb8 11.b6 Bg4 12.Qc2
  ±  (0.72)   Depth: 6/19   00:00:00  56kN
9...exd4 10.exd4 Qe7+ 11.Be2 Ne4 12.Nxe4 dxe4 13.Bg5
  ²  (0.51)   Depth: 6/19   00:00:00  74kN
9...exd4 10.exd4 Ne4 11.Nxe4 dxe4 12.Ng5 cxb5 13.Bxb5 f5
  ²  (0.54)   Depth: 7/19   00:00:01  183kN
9...e4 10.Nd2 cxb5 11.Bxb5 Be7 12.Qb3 0-0 13.Nxd5
  ²  (0.50)   Depth: 7/19   00:00:01  222kN
9...e4 10.Ne5 cxb5 11.Bxb5 Be7 12.c6 bxc6 13.Bxc6 Rb8 14.Nxd5 Nxd5 15.Bxd5
  ±  (0.97)   Depth: 8/20   00:00:01  634kN
9...exd4 10.exd4 Qe7+ 11.Be2 Ne4 12.Nxe4 dxe4 13.Nd2 cxb5 14.Bxb5 Qg5
  ²  (0.57)   Depth: 8/20   00:00:02  871kN
9...exd4 10.exd4 cxb5 11.Bxb5 Be7 12.0-0 0-0 13.Qb3 Nb8 14.Qc2
  ±  (0.73)   Depth: 9/23   00:00:03  1766kN
9...Qc7 10.b6 Qd8 11.Be2 e4 12.Nd2 Be7 13.Nb3 0-0 14.Nxa5
  ²  (0.70)   Depth: 9/23   00:00:07  3914kN
9...Qc7 10.b6 Qd8 11.Be2 exd4 12.exd4 Be7 13.Qc2 0-0 14.0-0
  ±  (0.77)   Depth: 10/26   00:00:11  6535kN
9...Qc7 10.g3 Ne4 11.b6 Nxc3 12.Qc2 Qd8 13.Qxc3 e4 14.Nd2 Be7
  ²  (0.59)   Depth: 11/27   00:00:30  19147kN
9...Qc7 10.b6 Qd8 11.Be2 exd4 12.exd4 Be7 13.0-0 Ne4 14.Bb2 0-0 15.Qc2
  ±  (0.75)   Depth: 12/29   00:01:00  40402kN
9...exd4 10.exd4 cxb5 11.Bxb5 Be7 12.Qc2 0-0 13.0-0 h6 14.Bd2 h5 15.Rfe1 Re8
  ²  (0.69)   Depth: 12/29   00:01:12  48928kN
9...exd4 10.exd4 cxb5 11.Bxb5 Be7 12.Qc2 0-0 13.0-0 Nb8 14.Re1 Nc6 15.Qe2 Re8
16.Bf4
  ±  (0.84)   Depth: 13/34   00:01:53  79594kN
9...Qc7 10.b6 Qd8 11.Be2 exd4 12.exd4 Be7 13.Qc2 0-0 14.0-0 Re8 15.Bf4 Ng4
  ±  (0.71)   Depth: 13/34   00:02:45  116537kN

(Young, MyTown 16.11.2003)




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