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Subject: Re: Where did Fritz go wrong? (NT)

Author: martin fierz

Date: 01:40:44 11/17/03

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On November 16, 2003 at 19:45:47, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On November 16, 2003 at 19:23:14, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On November 16, 2003 at 19:12:42, rait wrote:
>>
>>>got wrong-wery closed (not suiteble) opening variation and then had no good
>>>strategy if any...
>>
>>I will ask the question in a different way.
>>
>>What is the move that changed the theoretical result of the game from draw to
>>win for kasparov?
>>
>>I think that the answer is going to be we do not know because unfortunately or
>>firtunately we did not solve chess.
>>
>>Uri
>
>I can think of a couple.  the early a6.  The f4 move that really crystallized
>the pawn structure.  Pushing a5 isolating that pawn.  Once the pawn structure
>was defined, it became imperative that black advance on the kingside as white
>owned the queen-side.  Black fiddled while Rome burned.

objectively, i disagree completely:
1) the early ...a6 was played by kasparov himself in his infamous loss against
huzman earlier this year.
2) i don't know what "f4" move you are referring to. that was never played by
either side...
3) isolating the a5 pawn is *not* a problem as long as you know what to do
afterwards. e.g. in the french winawer, white often goes a4, and black can
always go and gobble that pawn. in return, white pushes his entire kingside down
the board and has more than enough compensation.

GM yermolinsky was saying that he actually liked black's position after 10
moves. he believed that black had good chances with such a kingside pawn
advance.

but....:
of course, fritz had no idea that it had to do that, so in a way you are right -
getting into this interesting position was equivalent to losing for fritz. but
it has nothing to do with the objective evaluation of that position.

i was already surprised that they chose ...a6 - that often leads to such closed
positions. i've asked this before, but i don't remember getting an answer: how
good is mr. kure at chess?

cheers
  martin



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