Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 19:30:55 11/18/03
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On November 18, 2003 at 12:26:18, margolies,marc wrote: >Hi! >Thanks for your response. I was not sure the arbitor could see the board until >you told me so. Might you know, doc, are the 3D goggles used in this event a >'shutter system' or some sort of color-coded affair? (I wonder if this bears >upon the arbitor's ability to see the colored pieces viz. orientation.) >Regarding Gari's behavior, it's clear we see tha same act differently. You say >he complained like a loser (my interpretation) and I say exactly so! because >injured winners do not seek remediation. >l I believe they are the classic "shutter solution". Based on the fact that they had an IR link to the 3d system. The only reason for a link would be to synch the LCD "shutters" with the refresh rate of the monitor. If you think about it, it was a stupid idea. The 3d added _nothing_ to the game that playing on a real board wouldn't produce, except for the potential for eyestrain and headaches. There are places where 3d stuff is great. This is _not_ one of them. I believe this is correct also because more than once, the ESPN camera showed the X3d monitor, and the pieces looked "fuzzy" when looking over Kasparov's shoulder, exactly what would happen if two images are interlaced for a viewing separation of about 4.5" or so (the distance between human eyes, necessary for depth perception). > >On November 18, 2003 at 10:19:41, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On November 17, 2003 at 22:15:17, margolies,marc wrote: >> >>>Hi Martin (btw i love your checkers prog) >>> >>> I think Gari was very correct to dress down the Match Arbiter, Albert Vassar, >>>regarding the conditions of game 2. >>>a> it is the Arbiter's Responsibility to ensure that the playing conditions are >>>correct-- and as Seirawan pointed out--- discomforts are only suffered by the >>>Human side because the Machine 'feels nothing.' >>>b>Since the Technology was part of the match, the machine should have suffered a >>> time penalty for operator error, in my opinion. >>>c> MOST IMPORTANTLY, it shows that arbiter Vasser never put on the stupid X3D >>>goggles to look at the board! What kind of arbiter at a chess match in virtual >>>reality cannot see the board ever! This is the rudest hoax I can imagine. >> >>You _can_ see the board without the glasses. It looks a little blurred because >>of the two interlaced frames, but you can see the board just fine. Seeing the >>colors is even easier. >> >>BTW this is _not_ a "virtual reality" setup. This is just a 3-d graphical >>display. Virtual reality is something else entirely. >> >> >>>Morever, In game 1 when I saw some of the TV coverage, Vassar just sat in a >>>chair where he could not observe anything-- and I did not see a pair of the >>>stupid glasses supplied to him either. He looked rather funny to me, like the >>>character comedian Chris Elliot played in the movie "13 Ghosts," and he only >>>needed a fake claw hand to complete the comedy. >>>Of course Gari would only complain because he lost (and this does Look like sour >>>grapes) but had Gari won, would this Arbitorial Malfeasance have caused >>>considerable injury to necessitate a Public grievance? >>>-Marc >>> >> >> >>The real question is, "had he won, would he have complained so much about >>the reversed board?" The answer is most likely "no". >> >> >> >>>
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