Author: Dave Gomboc
Date: 17:43:29 11/16/98
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On November 16, 1998 at 20:22:03, Mark Young wrote: >On November 16, 1998 at 18:32:16, Christophe Theron wrote: > >>On November 16, 1998 at 17:46:32, Mark Young wrote: >> >>>No one is saying a bug does not exists, but how does Thorsten draw the >>>conclusion that because it has a bug that sometimes causes this, this is showing >>>that Chessbase and Junior 5 are cheating. >> >> >>Thorsten did not say Junior (Amir) is cheating. > >You need to go back and read what Thorsten wrote, because it is clear to me that >what he is saying. > > >> >> >> >>>And because Junior 5's autoplayer has >>>a bug this proves that Fritz 5 is doing the something and proves that Fritz 5 >>>also cheated. >> >> >>F5 autoplayer has been reported to have the same kind of bug several months ago. > >Really, and now we know the that report was wrong, Ed checked it out and found >no problems with it. > > >>That is: somebody has found that sometimes F5 opponent was unable to save its >>game. This "somebody" was not Thorsten. > >I can only go by what Ed reported. He is the only expert I know that has seen >it. > >> >>Same company, same bug, secret autoplayer... Too much for me! This time I think >>it is normal that we ask ourselves some questions. > >What kind of logic is that, same company yes, but do you have proof it is the >same bug, please post the proof. How do you know its the same bug when you said >that the Fritz 5 autoplayer is secret. Do you have E.S.P. How can it be the same >bug when the Fritz 5 and Junior 5 autoplayers are different. That does not jive >with the facts. Well, because the products are provided by the same commerical entity, the two autoplayers might be based on the same source base. One is released, further work is done, and the other is released. If there was a software bug in the earlier one that wasn't caught, it would still exist in the latter one. This is, of course, only one possible explanation. We can speculate if we like, but Chessbase is about the only entity that really knows. A representative from Chessbase might be unwilling to post here on this topic; generally people avoid places where they are getting raked over the coals. Dave Gomboc
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