Author: Mark Young
Date: 10:02:31 11/17/98
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On November 17, 1998 at 12:29:13, Keith Ian Price wrote: >Mark young wrote: > >>For this statement to be correct, then SSDF was forced to test Fritz 5 by >>Chessbase. I don't think the "special conditions" were out of bonds.> > >The special conditions may not have been any more out of bounds than Karpov's >rules for challenging him for the F.I.D.E. world championship. Yet, almost all >who observed that tournament felt it was unfair. There was a perceived advantage >for Karpov. Fritz may have had no advantage due to the secret autoplayer, but >Chessbase invited the speculation when they changed the rules, especially in >light of the Genius 4 problems. While I agree with you that Thorsten goes beyond >speculation in his statements, I see no one else on CCC that has done anything >else other than to complain about what they perceive to be an unfair tactic by >Chessbase. I have no interest in who is number one on the SSDF list, as I own >and like several programs, including Fritz. I do have an interest in >standardization of features for ease of computer chess program communication, >and the secret autoplayer is a bad idea for this, and so I am happy that there >will be a public autoplayer for future releases. I do hope it will work without >bugs, however. Therefore, I would like to thank Amir for his investigation of >this problem. I agree to a point, but it was SSDF that did the testing not ChessBase. SSDF did not have to test it. And come on who in their right minds thinks that testing with 32mb vs. 44mb hash is going to get you first place on the SSDF list. Fritz 5 was so far out it front of the pack it would not have made a differece. This tactic has just been argued because people that don't know might think it is a hugh advantage, so it was a good ploy to attack Chessbase with. All this fuss, about cheating and such, and the next crop of program will over take Fritz 5 on the list. Are they cheating too, or was Fritz 5 just the best of the old crop of programs. My testing shows it was just the best for its generation. And I have all the top programs and play them against each other, I know it was best in computer vs computer play. It did not have to cheat. I find Junior 5 even stronger then Fritz 5, so it does not have to cheat either. And I bet Junior 5 will top the list next month. > >kp
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