Author: Vincent Lejeune
Date: 23:23:04 12/04/03
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On December 04, 2003 at 12:22:01, Vincent Lejeune wrote: >On December 04, 2003 at 02:27:35, Vincent Lejeune wrote: > >>On December 03, 2003 at 15:54:45, Tord Romstad wrote: >> >>>On December 03, 2003 at 14:59:03, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>=====================10 seconds per position======================== >>>>test results summary: >>>> >>>>total positions searched.......... 300 >>>>number right...................... 299 >>> >>>That's really impressive, even considering the fast hardware. The last >>>time I tried, I got 289/300 at 1 second/position, 293/300 at 3 seconds, >>>294/300 at 5 seconds, 295/300 at 10 seconds, and 298/300 at 20 seconds. >>> >>>The remaining two positions, number 100 and 230, are *never* solved. >>>I can let my program analyse for hours, but it still doesn't find >>>the solutions. In both positions, it thinks it is winning, but >>>never finds the right moves. >>> >>>In number 100, Gothmog switches back and forth between Be3 and Kb3, both >>>with a score around +4. In number 230, it plays Rh7 with a score around >>>+3.3. >> >>Hiarcs 9,5 best moves after 8h of thinking on an AMD barton 2800+ : >>WAC.230 >>2b5/1r6/2kBp1p1/p2pP1P1/2pP4/1pP3K1/1R3P2/8 b - - 0 1 >> >>Analysis by Hiarcs 9: >> >>1. -+ (-1.82): 1...Th7 2.Tb1 a4 3.Fa3 Th5 4.f4 >>2. -+ (-1.82): 1...a4 2.Fa3 Th7 3.Tb1 Th5 4.f4 >>3. -+ (-1.82): 1...Tf7 2.Fa3 Th7 3.Tb1 Th5 4.f4 a4 5.Ta1 Fb7 6.Fb2 Rb5 7.Te1 Th8 >>8.Rg2 >>4. -+ (-1.82): 1...Tg7 2.Fa3 Th7 3.Tb1 Th5 4.f4 a4 5.Ta1 Fb7 6.Fb2 Rb5 7.Te1 Th8 >>8.Rg2 >>5. -+ (-1.82): 1...Td7 2.Fa3 Th7 3.Tb1 Th5 4.f4 a4 5.Ta1 Fb7 6.Fb2 Rb5 7.Te1 Th8 >>8.Rg2 >> > >moves 1...Rb4 2.Cxb4 a4 played analysis after 10h, searching only THE best move, >Hiarcs 9 don't find a winning sequence !! >Is Rb4 really winning ??? > > >[d]2b5/8/2kBp1p1/3pP1P1/pPpP4/1p4K1/1R3P2/8 w - - 0 1 > >Analysis by Hiarcs 9: > >3.Rf4 c3 > +- (1.88) Profondeur: 1/2 00:00:00 >3.Rf4 c3 > -+ (-1.46) Profondeur: 2/3 00:00:00 >3.Rf4 c3 > -+ (-1.46) Profondeur: 2/3 00:00:00 >3.b5+ Rxb5 4.Tb1 > ³ (-0.49) Profondeur: 2/3 00:00:00 >3.b5+ Rxb5 4.Tb1 > ± (0.96) Profondeur: 2/3 00:00:00 >3.b5+ Rxb5 4.Tb1 > ± (0.74) Profondeur: 3/4 00:00:00 >3.b5+ Rxb5 4.Tb1 > = (0.18) Profondeur: 4/5 00:00:00 >3.b5+ Rxb5 > = (0.18) Profondeur: 4/5 00:00:00 >3.b5+ Rxb5 > = (-0.08) Profondeur: 5/7 00:00:00 >3.b5+ Rxb5 4.Tb1 c3 5.Fa3 Rc4 6.Rf4 > -+ (-1.46) Profondeur: 5/7 00:00:00 >3.b5+ Rxb5 4.Tb1 c3 5.Fa3 Rc4 6.Rf4 > µ (-1.17) Profondeur: 6/14 00:00:00 >3.b5+ Rxb5 > µ (-1.17) Profondeur: 6/14 00:00:00 >3.b5+ Rxb5 > -+ (-1.46) Profondeur: 7/14 00:00:00 >3.b5+ Rd7 > -+ (-1.46) Profondeur: 7/14 00:00:00 1kN >3.b5+ Rd7 > µ (-1.17) Profondeur: 8/17 00:00:00 2kN >3.b5+ Rxb5 > µ (-1.17) Profondeur: 8/18 00:00:00 3kN >3.b5+ Rxb5 > -+ (-1.46) Profondeur: 9/18 00:00:00 3kN >3.b5+ Rxb5 > -+ (-1.46) Profondeur: 9/18 00:00:00 5kN >3.b5+ Rxb5 4.Tb1 c3 5.Fa3 Rc4 6.Rf4 > -+ (-1.46) Profondeur: 10/18 00:00:00 8kN >3.b5+ Rxb5 4.Tb1 c3 5.Fa3 Rc4 6.Rf4 > -+ (-1.46) Profondeur: 11/18 00:00:00 15kN >3.b5+ Rxb5 4.Tb1 c3 5.Fa3 Rc4 6.Rf4 > -+ (-1.46) Profondeur: 12/19 00:00:00 30kN >3.b5+ Rxb5 4.Tb1 c3 5.Fa3 Rc4 6.Rf4 > -+ (-1.46) Profondeur: 13/26 00:00:01 491kN >3.b5+ Rxb5 4.Tb1 c3 5.Fa3 Rc4 6.Rf4 Rxd4 7.f3 Fa6 8.Tb2 c2 > -+ (-1.65) Profondeur: 14/36 00:00:55 17715kN >3.b5+ Rxb5 4.Tb1 c3 5.Fa3 Rc4 6.Rf4 Rxd4 7.Th1 Rd3 8.Tb1 > -+ (-1.74) Profondeur: 15/40 00:03:18 63121kN >3.b5+ Rxb5 > -+ (-1.82) Profondeur: 16/43 00:10:18 201292kN >3.b5+ Rxb5 > -+ (-1.82) Profondeur: 17/44 00:36:44 706477kN, tb=4 >3.b5+ Rxb5 > -+ (-1.82) Profondeur: 18/49 01:37:44 1930751kN, tb=13 >3.b5+ Rxb5 > -+ (-1.82) Profondeur: 19/51 04:43:24 5639009kN, tb=88 > After 3.b5 Kxb5 4.Rb1 c3 5.Ba3; the score continue to rise convincingly; Hiracs would need a lot of effort to find the WAC 230 from the starting position !!! :) [d]2b5/8/4p1p1/1k1pP1P1/p2P4/Bpp3K1/5P2/1R6 b - - 0 1 Analysis by Hiarcs 9: 5...Rc4 6.f3 Rxd4 7.f4 Rc4 8.Tc1 Fb7 -+ (-1.95) Profondeur: 14/3 00:00:00 5...Rc4 6.f3 Rxd4 7.f4 Rc4 8.Tc1 Fb7 -+ (-1.95) Profondeur: 14/3 00:00:00 5...Rc4 6.f3 Rxd4 7.f4 Rc4 8.Tc1 Fb7 -+ (-1.95) Profondeur: 14/3 00:00:00 5...Rc4 6.f3 Rxd4 7.f4 Rc4 8.Tc1 Fb7 -+ (-1.95) Profondeur: 14/3 00:00:00 5...Rc4 6.f3 Rxd4 7.f4 Rc4 8.Tc1 Fb7 -+ (-1.95) Profondeur: 14/3 00:00:00 5...Rc4 6.f3 Rxd4 7.f4 Rc4 8.Tc1 Fb7 -+ (-1.95) Profondeur: 14/3 00:00:00 5...Rc4 6.f3 Rxd4 7.f4 Rc4 8.Tc1 Fb7 -+ (-1.95) Profondeur: 14/3 00:00:00 5...Rc4 6.f3 Rxd4 7.f4 Rc4 8.Tc1 Fb7 -+ (-1.95) Profondeur: 14/3 00:00:00 5...Rc4 6.f3 Rxd4 7.f4 Rc4 8.Tc1 Fb7 -+ (-1.95) Profondeur: 14/3 00:00:00 5...Rc4 6.f3 Rxd4 7.f4 Rc4 8.Tc1 Fb7 -+ (-1.95) Profondeur: 14/3 00:00:00 5...Rc4 6.f3 Rxd4 7.f4 Rc4 8.Tc1 Fb7 -+ (-1.95) Profondeur: 14/3 00:00:00 5...Rc4 6.f3 Rxd4 7.f4 Rc4 8.Tc1 Fb7 -+ (-1.95) Profondeur: 14/3 00:00:00 5...Rc4 6.f3 Rxd4 7.f4 Rc4 8.Tc1 Fb7 -+ (-1.95) Profondeur: 14/3 00:00:00 5...Rc4 6.f3 Rxd4 7.f4 Rc4 8.Tc1 Fb7 -+ (-1.95) Profondeur: 14/3 00:00:00 5...Rc4 6.f3 Rxd4 7.f4 Rc4 8.Tc1 Fb7 -+ (-1.95) Profondeur: 14/3 00:00:00 5...Rc4 6.f3 Rxd4 7.f4 Rc4 8.Tc1 Fb7 -+ (-1.95) Profondeur: 14/3 00:00:00 5...Rc4 6.f3 Rxd4 7.f4 Rc4 8.Tc1 Fb7 -+ (-1.95) Profondeur: 14/3 00:00:00 5...Rc4 6.Rf4 Rxd4 -+ (-2.10) Profondeur: 14/35 00:02:56 57359kN 5...Rc4 6.f4 Rxd4 -+ (-2.30) Profondeur: 15/39 00:23:51 436224kN 5...Rc4 6.Tc1 Rxd4 7.Td1+ Rc4 8.Tb1 d4 9.Rf4 Rd5 10.Fc1 Fa6 11.Fa3 Fb5 -+ (-2.52) Profondeur: 16/43 01:21:43 1606213kN 5...Rc4 6.f4 Rxd4 -+ (-2.74) Profondeur: 17/43 04:20:54 5201739kN, tb=25 > >> >>> >>>What tricks do you use which helps you solve WAC100 and/or WAC230? >>> >>>And, I *REALLY* hope you're *NOT* planning to use that machine at CCT6, >>>because I'm probably going to be there with my PIV 2.4 GHz, searching >>>less than 200 kn/s ... :-) >>> >>>Tord
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