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Subject: Re: Kasparov-Kramnik Blitz match is Pay-Per-View on ICC

Author: Dave Gomboc

Date: 21:46:16 11/20/98

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On November 20, 1998 at 22:59:15, James Robertson wrote:

>On November 20, 1998 at 05:06:16, CONNAT wrote:
>
>>On November 19, 1998 at 15:26:18, James T. Walker wrote:
>>
>>>On November 19, 1998 at 13:19:43, Graham Laight wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>On November 19, 1998 at 08:27:57, Mike Saavedra wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I read in rccc and confirmed it on ICC that Kasparov and Kramnik match (24
>>>>>games/blitz)can only be seen on ICC on Pay-per-view for 16 checkels (16 US$).
>>>>>The money goes to the prize fund. I have a few questions for the group.
>>>>>
>>>>>1. Do you think these PPV events will encourage high profile GM to play more
>>>>>games?
>>>>
>>>>I don't know - but clearly professional boxers (the most obvious example of
>>>>successful PPV in sport) do not do more fights as a result of the higher fees.
>>>>
>>>>For example, Lennox Lewis would not consider it worth getting out of bed for
>>>>less than $5,000,000 these days.
>>>>
>>>>>2. How much do you think they will earn in total via ICC at 16$ a pop?
>>>>
>>>>It's a worthy experiment, but I'm afraid this is not boxing. I think they'll get
>>>>about 500 viewers, which will at least pay the cost of setting the PPV up. And
>>>>the software will be there in place for the next time.
>>>>
>>>>>3. If you think the price is too high, what do you think is a fairer price? (I
>>>>>personally would not pay more than 5 bucks, but then again, i'm po' ;) )
>>>>
>>>>I would have paid UKP 10 to see GK v DB.
>>>>
>>>>I suspect the true fans for this match will be in Russia, where they do not have
>>>>convertible money.
>>>>
>>>>Given that the results and moves will be immediately available to the world, I
>>>>don't see how they can seriously consider charging anything for this.
>>>>
>>>>Better to treat their existing customers (who already pay) - show them a good
>>>>time and make them feel like they belong to a good club.
>>>>
>>>>I think this shows what a good value service members of FCS get!
>>>
>>>I think in the e-mail I received they are playing for $1000/game.  $1K to the
>>>winner $0 to the loser.  They split the $1k in case of a draw.  So It cost $24K
>>>to hold the match so 500 people at $16 each would not pay for it.
>>>Jim Walker
>>
>>
>>***************************
>>
>>Hello all,
>>
>>>> "For example, Lennox Lewis would not consider it worth getting out of bed for
>>>> less than $5,000,000 these days."
>>
>>Of course Chess are not Boxing. Are $5,000,000 too much for a Sport Event ? It
>>is an other debate...
>>
>>Here is my thoughts..
>>
>>a) I will not pay 16$ to contribute to 1000 $ for one single game rapid chess,
>>even with two of the best players. I know (not personnaly :) ) a lot of other
>>professionnal chess players who would be happy with 1000 $ benefits at the end
>>of each month. I'm serious here.
>>
>>Lennox Lewis doesn't get out bed for much money, but Garry could win at leat
>>1000$ x 12 = 12000$ staying *in* bed if he has got, for example, a notebook IBM
>>with Fritz :).
>>
>>So I won't pay for ICS event.
>>
>>
>>b) A lot of people are waiting for datas from matches beetween Garry Kasparov Vs
>>Strong Computers to prove Human's being are better than computer in Chess -
>>sorry for that :).
>>
>>IBM doesn't want to re-rematch ? Then Garry may match and beat all other Strong
>>Computers in challenges, forcing IBM to re-rematch (why not ?, never know...).
>>
>>I'm waiting for the Best Human Player to play matches like Tinsley Vs Chinook
>
>I know little about world-class checkers. Who is Tinsley? I know Chinook is a
>very strong program.... but that's about it. Where can I find mor einfo?
>
>James

http://www.cs.ualberta.ca/~jonathan is a good first stop.

Dave Gomboc



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