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Subject: Re: Kasparov-Kramnik Blitz match is Pay-Per-View on ICC

Author: James Robertson

Date: 23:04:47 11/20/98

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On November 21, 1998 at 00:46:16, Dave Gomboc wrote:

>On November 20, 1998 at 22:59:15, James Robertson wrote:
>
>>On November 20, 1998 at 05:06:16, CONNAT wrote:
>>
>>>On November 19, 1998 at 15:26:18, James T. Walker wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 19, 1998 at 13:19:43, Graham Laight wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On November 19, 1998 at 08:27:57, Mike Saavedra wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I read in rccc and confirmed it on ICC that Kasparov and Kramnik match (24
>>>>>>games/blitz)can only be seen on ICC on Pay-per-view for 16 checkels (16 US$).
>>>>>>The money goes to the prize fund. I have a few questions for the group.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1. Do you think these PPV events will encourage high profile GM to play more
>>>>>>games?
>>>>>
>>>>>I don't know - but clearly professional boxers (the most obvious example of
>>>>>successful PPV in sport) do not do more fights as a result of the higher fees.
>>>>>
>>>>>For example, Lennox Lewis would not consider it worth getting out of bed for
>>>>>less than $5,000,000 these days.
>>>>>
>>>>>>2. How much do you think they will earn in total via ICC at 16$ a pop?
>>>>>
>>>>>It's a worthy experiment, but I'm afraid this is not boxing. I think they'll get
>>>>>about 500 viewers, which will at least pay the cost of setting the PPV up. And
>>>>>the software will be there in place for the next time.
>>>>>
>>>>>>3. If you think the price is too high, what do you think is a fairer price? (I
>>>>>>personally would not pay more than 5 bucks, but then again, i'm po' ;) )
>>>>>
>>>>>I would have paid UKP 10 to see GK v DB.
>>>>>
>>>>>I suspect the true fans for this match will be in Russia, where they do not have
>>>>>convertible money.
>>>>>
>>>>>Given that the results and moves will be immediately available to the world, I
>>>>>don't see how they can seriously consider charging anything for this.
>>>>>
>>>>>Better to treat their existing customers (who already pay) - show them a good
>>>>>time and make them feel like they belong to a good club.
>>>>>
>>>>>I think this shows what a good value service members of FCS get!
>>>>
>>>>I think in the e-mail I received they are playing for $1000/game.  $1K to the
>>>>winner $0 to the loser.  They split the $1k in case of a draw.  So It cost $24K
>>>>to hold the match so 500 people at $16 each would not pay for it.
>>>>Jim Walker
>>>
>>>
>>>***************************
>>>
>>>Hello all,
>>>
>>>>> "For example, Lennox Lewis would not consider it worth getting out of bed for
>>>>> less than $5,000,000 these days."
>>>
>>>Of course Chess are not Boxing. Are $5,000,000 too much for a Sport Event ? It
>>>is an other debate...
>>>
>>>Here is my thoughts..
>>>
>>>a) I will not pay 16$ to contribute to 1000 $ for one single game rapid chess,
>>>even with two of the best players. I know (not personnaly :) ) a lot of other
>>>professionnal chess players who would be happy with 1000 $ benefits at the end
>>>of each month. I'm serious here.
>>>
>>>Lennox Lewis doesn't get out bed for much money, but Garry could win at leat
>>>1000$ x 12 = 12000$ staying *in* bed if he has got, for example, a notebook IBM
>>>with Fritz :).
>>>
>>>So I won't pay for ICS event.
>>>
>>>
>>>b) A lot of people are waiting for datas from matches beetween Garry Kasparov Vs
>>>Strong Computers to prove Human's being are better than computer in Chess -
>>>sorry for that :).
>>>
>>>IBM doesn't want to re-rematch ? Then Garry may match and beat all other Strong
>>>Computers in challenges, forcing IBM to re-rematch (why not ?, never know...).
>>>
>>>I'm waiting for the Best Human Player to play matches like Tinsley Vs Chinook
>>
>>I know little about world-class checkers. Who is Tinsley? I know Chinook is a
>>very strong program.... but that's about it. Where can I find mor einfo?
>>
>>James
>
>http://www.cs.ualberta.ca/~jonathan is a good first stop.
>
>Dave Gomboc

Ok, thanks! The site is cool; fun to read about the Tinsley - Chinook
matches....

James



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