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Subject: Re: Shredder wins in Graz after controversy

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 08:24:23 12/13/03

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On December 13, 2003 at 03:33:27, Terry McCracken wrote:

>On December 12, 2003 at 22:43:37, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On December 12, 2003 at 18:26:03, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>
>>>On December 12, 2003 at 17:09:24, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 12, 2003 at 14:26:18, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On December 12, 2003 at 13:42:17, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On December 12, 2003 at 12:52:15, Matthew Hull wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>AFAIC you have hit an all-time low, as I said to Matt, be careful people might
>>>>>>>>>>step on you!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>When you said that to me, I thought you were referring to the moderators.
>>>>>>>>>That's who you were referring to, right?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>No Matt, I was reffering to you, it was pretty clear.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>No, I mean the "people might step on matt" meant "moderators might step on
>>>>>>>matt".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If you meant to imply something else, then you are definitely a comedian.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>:)
>>>>>>>Matt
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>He meant "something else".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It was a childish comment, as usual.
>>>>>
>>>>>Learn to read, it was Matt behaving badly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>When he "grows up" he will realize that sometimes a game is about
>>>>>>winning, other times it is about fun, and other times it is about
>>>>>>things like sportsmanship, training, etc.  But a tournament is
>>>>>>about winning, first and foremost.  To suggest otherwise is so
>>>>>>far beyond ridiculous that it takes sunlight 6 months to get from
>>>>>>ridiculous to there.  Chess players are competitors, first and
>>>>>>foremost, in tournament play.  And if my opponent screws up a won
>>>>>>position and lets me escape with a perpetual, I'll take it.  The
>>>>>>literature is _full_ of such happenings between GM players, and
>>>>>>they never get into this sort of nonsensical "but I was really winning,
>>>>>>and screwed up, and you are a louse for not resigning and giving me the
>>>>>>point.  I only made a _small_ mistake."
>>>>>
>>>>>You absolutely have no idea what you're talking about, and I'm growing fatigued
>>>>>with your vapid insults.
>>>>
>>>>I really don't believe you could recognize an insult if it fell on you.  The
>>>>above was _not_ an insult.  This paragraph _might_ be considered one however.
>>>
>>>Puerile attacks, this speaks volumes of your character, or lack thereof.
>>
>>Since you started this, I suppose that volume is even louder?
>
>No, you created this, and you have to extricate yourself from this quandary.
>You created the conudrum, you have to find the solution. Not I.

There is no "conundrum" here, there is a "problem"  And I didn't create
it, the TD in Graz created it.  I don't have to find a solution, because
I (and others) _already_ know the solution.

You, on the other hand, are off the planet somewhere and have no idea what
is going on...


>>
>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I can see GM Walter Browne falling out of his chair laughing.  And he
>>>>>>doesn't laugh much in a chess tournament.  :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If you said that to him _before_ the game ends, you might have a chance.
>>>>>>He might choke so badly laughing that his flag falls before he can regain
>>>>>>control.  :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Let's see.  Should Kasparov have been given a point or 1/2 point in the
>>>>>>game he lost so badly against junior, where he had a good position for the
>>>>>>entire game and made a single move that blew the game?  Should the DB team
>>>>>>have given Kasparov credit for blundering in game 6 in 1997 and called the
>>>>>>match a draw?  Should Shirov, or Kramnik, or ... have expected the same
>>>>>>when they lost games they should have won and won games they should have
>>>>>>lost?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Sort of destroys the idea of "competition"...
>>>>>
>>>>>You're babbling mindlessly. I'm trying to refrain from answering as it's lost on
>>>>>you two yardbirds, but you're making it pretty near damn impossible.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Right.  Get shrill instead of reinforcing your (lack of) argument...
>>>
>>>I'm not being shrill in this post at all, just pointing out you're "Out to
>>>Lunch", Professor.
>>>You have no arguement, with the exception of the dubious decision made in Graz,
>>>which will stand, much to your chagrin.
>>
>>Not to my "chagrin".  To my "dislike".  It was a bad decision that supported
>>direct violation of a rule used for 30+ years.  That will _always_ be looked
>>up with disfavor by myself and others.
>
>Chagrin fits perfectly, you are grasping at straws. Most others will forget.
>>

I'm not grasping at straws or anything else.  It is a concrete/open-and-shut
solution to a problem that should never have happened.

You need a dictionary in the worst way.

I'm not embarassed by the decision at all.  _I_ didn't have anything to do with
it.  I'm much more interested in seing the decision "fixed" so that it is fair
to everyone.


>>
>>>>
>>>>By the way, you ought to consider taking ritalin.  It helps keep your
>>>>attention on a single topic.  You have been all over the planet, yet
>>>>the discussion was about the decision (bad) made in Graz.
>>>
>>>Yes, when all else fails resort to "ad hominems", churlish personal attacks.
>>
>>Look up "ad hominem".  That wasn't one.  That was a suggestion to solve a
>>real problem you have with short attention span.  Just look where we are now
>>and what the original thread subject was about...
>
>I fully comprehend what ad hominem means, and you're guilty of using such
>pathetic debasing tactic, concede.
>Robert you are wrong, I know it, and you know it, my attention span is far
>greater than yours, or most people's admit it, you've lost.
>I know the entire thread, and I know you don't, you can't, I've kept track you
>obviously haven't.

Right.  Just look at how you are arguing the points of the original discussion
_right now_.  (hint:  You haven't talked about the TD decision in several
consecutive posts now.)

"focus" indeed...



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>>>>
>>>>A little "focus" might keep you on track and off these wild tangents.
>>>
>>>I can assure you, most confidently, I'm very focused, it's you who is erratic.
>>
>>Your definition of focused doesn't pass any optical clarity standard...
>
>I can attest with the utmost confidence, that I surpass the highest standards,
>OTOH you can't, your memory capacity is inferior.
>
>It's crystal clear to me, but muddled in your case.
>
>You're taking on the wrong person, I'm not some mindless fool.
>As long as you take the stance you're superior you'll be buried, along with your
>archaic concepts.

I doubt I'll ever be buried by you, however.





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