Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 08:27:40 12/29/03
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On December 29, 2003 at 03:51:35, Uri Blass wrote:
>On December 28, 2003 at 18:19:45, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On December 28, 2003 at 17:48:40, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>
>>>On December 28, 2003 at 17:11:02, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>I do not believe it.
>>>[..}
>>>>I do not believe it.
>>>[..]
>>>>I do not believe it.
>>>[..]
>>>>I believe just me, myself and i
>>>
>>>You will remain always the same person!
>>>
>>>
>>>>Can you prove it in a match against Crafty on ICC?
>>>
>>>A match for money at icc would be fun yes. If we play for a lot of money i will
>>>consider it. Use a tournament book and a well tested diep version. by now many
>>>bugs are coming out of diep thanks to many testers so i feel very confident.
>>
>>I see
>>
>>Opinion of people is not important for you.
>>The question if people believe that you can beat Crafty is not important for
>>you.
>>
>>A lot of people will refuse to bet about this things as a principle so it does
>>not prove that they believe to you.
>
>I can add that if selling your program is important for you then you should try
>to prove things by participating in tournaments with equal hardeware.
>
>commercial programs like Deep Sjeng and Ruffian won WBEC and I guess that it
>help them to sell more copies.
>
>Note that at least in the case of Deep Sjeng it participates also in world
>championships so there is no contradiction.
>
>I did not buy them but I may consider to buy one of them in the future.
>Today it seems that both The king and smarthink also have chances for the first
>place.
>
>You do not trust the ssdf but when I see that you do not participate in a single
>tournament with equal hardware then I cannot believe all your claims.
>
>You can decide not to reaveal your book for WCCC like other commercial who
>participate.
>
>If you think that your engine is better then it may be a good idea if you prove
>it there.
>
>I believe that WBEC has the potential to be more important for sales than WCCC
>because of the following reasons:
>
>1)WBEC is equal hardware tournament.
>2)WBEC is more games so the results are more significant than WCCC.
>
>
>I also believe that WBEC has 2 advantage relative to the ssdf.
>
>1)All the games are available.
>2)Learning is less important than ssdf because only 4 games are played between
>every 2 opponents.
>
>some commercial programs(Deep Sjeng,Ruffian,The king,Gandalf,Rebel) already
>participate in WBEC.
>
>I am interested to know if programmers of other commercial programs plan to
>participate in WBEC in the future by supporting winboard(specifically Junior and
>Tiger when the authors write from time to time and this is the reason that I
>added the names of the programmers to the title).
>
>Uri
I am less and less interested in participating in tournaments. They are just
lotteries.
I think that playing more games (and using faster time controls so playing a lot
of games becomes possible) would be good, and I could then reconsider.
Christophe
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