Author: Tom Kerrigan
Date: 09:24:47 01/09/04
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On January 09, 2004 at 10:13:39, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On January 09, 2004 at 00:29:51, Tom Kerrigan wrote: > >>On January 09, 2004 at 00:20:48, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On January 08, 2004 at 23:39:42, Tom Kerrigan wrote: >>> >>>>On January 08, 2004 at 22:50:32, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>> >>>>>>Where is this going on? Aren't all of the 64 bit Athlons named "Athlon 64"? >>>>> >>>>>They are not being called that everywhere. IE 3400+ what? >>>> >>>>I think you're confused about AMD's product line. 3400+ is the speed rating. >>>>Athlon 64 is the family name. The full name of the chip is "Athlon 64 3400+" so >>>>I don't think you have a valid complaint. >>> >>>athlon. athlon-64. opteron. FX51. And there is "no confusion"? >> >>I'm not confused. Honda makes the Accord, Accord Coupe, Acura TSX, and Acura TL >>and they're all based on the Accord, yet somehow people manage... > >Not all of those are "accords" with different names, however. > >FX51. athlon-64. Opteron are the same with a minor memory controller >difference for one. Not really. The A64 3000+ has a 512k cache, vs. the others' 1M cache. The A64's "minor" memory channel difference is a complete lack of an entire memory channel. And only Opteron can be used for multiprocessor scenarios. Let's compare this to Intel, shall we? Intel sells slightly defective Pentium 4s as "Celerons." The only difference is that half the cache is disabled--how is this different from disabling, e.g., multiprocessing on an Opteron and calling it an Athlon 64? Intel also sells the Pentium 4 Extreme Edition, which is absolutely identical to one of their Xeons. So are you going to make the same complaint about Intel, Celerons, Extreme Editions, and Xeons? >>>>It's not really nonsense. How else do you propose people tell the difference >>>>between a 486/50 and a 486DX2/50? >>> >>>I wouldn't fake the MHZ numbers, for sure. If the external clock frequency >>>is 50mhz, it's 50mhz. If it is 25mhz external and 50 internal, it is 25mhz. >> >>You're just digging yourself a deeper stupidity hole. If you call it a 486/25, >>how do you tell the difference between that and a 486 with a 25MHz internal >>clock? According to your backwards notion, there would be half a dozen 800MHz >>Pentium 4s that all perform differently. > >I'm not digging any sort of "hole" at all. I simply think it wrong to have >two chips that say 486-50 when they are not the same. I think I made that Of course. I agree completely. That's why the 50MHz int/50MHz ext 486 is called a 486/50 whereas the 50MHz int/25MHz ext 486 is called a 486DX2/50. There's no "faking" of MHz numbers going on at all. -Tom
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