Author: Tom Kerrigan
Date: 19:11:02 01/11/04
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On January 11, 2004 at 16:42:15, martin fierz wrote: >On January 11, 2004 at 16:11:06, Tom Kerrigan wrote: > >>On January 10, 2004 at 16:24:59, Jim Bodkins wrote: >> >>>The US doesnt play chess really. USCF has 90,000 members out of 1/3 billion >>>people and just went bankrupt (over about $300,000 - chump change to a pro >>>basketball player) and had to sell its store to an english firm. Most of the top >>>US players (USCF) are immigrants not native. >>> >>>I'm a native American, so dont get mad. We play baseball not chess. Chess isnt >>>culturally a part of the US at all. People (Garry) come here mainly because of >>>money not chess. Chess software doesnt interest most programmers in my >>>experience. OS's, databases etc do. >>> >>>The US will get hammered, but the guys will probably have fun anyway. >>> >>>... oh, and we do Mars missions. :) >> >>I believe people on this message board have forgotten their history. :) Shannon >>was American, the revolutionary programs MacHack and CHESS were American, the >>world champions Belle, Deep Thought, and Cray Blitz were American. > >you are forgetting the first computer chess programmer - alan turing, not >exactly american :-) My bad. I'll change my point. The majority of groundbreaking work on computer chess was done by Americans. >>I'd say computer chess is a fairly significant part of American culture. > >and this is the wrong way round: some americans made very significant >contributions to computer chess. but "part of the american culture"?? there are >many things that come to my mind when i think about american culture, both >positive and negative (think football, baseball, everbody having guns, free >speech, the whole idea of the american dream etc). but certainly not computer >chess... I was speaking relatively, of course, in response to Jim's post that Americans suck at computer chess because chess itself is not part of our culture. I'd say that computer chess is most definitely a part of our computer science culture. I suppose you could argue semantics about "significant." -Tom
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