Author: James T. Walker
Date: 12:39:09 12/04/98
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On December 04, 1998 at 15:28:01, James T. Walker wrote: >On December 04, 1998 at 14:02:05, Matthew Herman wrote: > >>I own cm6000 and I have found it to be an interesting opponent (I am a USCF >>expert and a WBCA master). However, one thing that i have found is that it >>repeatedly falls for closed center & KID type kingside attacks.. of course >>usually all programs fall for this once in a while but CM6k repeatedly falls for >>it.. apart from those types of anti-computer ideas it is a very tough opponent. >>If you have 20$-30$ and already have another program like fritz . you might want >>to buy it.. one thing that is a shame is that it doesnt have the infinite >>analysis where it goes with you when you are trying to analyze a game by hand.. >>and the engine is not compatible with other programs.. C-players and below may >>get a kick out of the different personalities and the Josh Waitzkin annotated >>games. The database functions are MUCH better than the previous "multimedia" >>versions (CM5k and cm5500). However, still not up to par with fritz5 or rebel. >>Also the 3-d boards etc.. are not eye-friendly.. so you may end up using just >>the 2-d boards.. as they are also faster when playing a quick game. One PAIN in >>the neck is when you are blitzing and you lose control of the piece so it >>becomes an "illegal move" and hten you lose 10 seconds on your clock while the >>"voice" says something like "Knights cannot move along diagonals, knight moves >>are always l-shaped".. I think there is a way to turn this off but i haven't >>found it yet. All in all the engine is about 2250-2300 strength and the >>differnet personalities can give you some interesting entertainment (they all >>have different styles). So consider buying it, but don't expect an engine as >>strong as fritz/rebel or the same database functions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Matthew I don't know how long you have been checking out this forum but please look at the 4 games at 40/90 between Junior5 and CM6000 I posted here. Also look at the two Game/30 games I posted between the same two. The 40/90 score is 3-1 favor CM6K right now. In the 4 games if you look at the score evaluation by Junior5 you will find that Junior has had 1 or maybe two(I may have missed one) moves that it evaluated over 0.5 in it's favor. So far it has been total domination by CM6K. I don't expect that to last because these two programs are probably within 50 points of each other (Not sure which is stronger). But if you think CM6K is in the 2250 to 2300 range you are way out in left field. Also my 12 games with CM5500 against Rebel10 (CM5500 won 6.5-5.5) and 12 games against Junior 5 (Junior5 won 7-5) indicates CM5500 is in the same class as these two engines. Those two scores indicate CM5500 is within 50 points of those two engines but I have to admit the sample is very small. Jim Walker
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