Author: Lanny DiBartolomeo
Date: 16:52:36 12/04/98
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On December 04, 1998 at 17:41:08, Matthew Herman wrote:
>On December 04, 1998 at 15:00:48, John Merlino wrote:
>
>>On December 04, 1998 at 14:02:05, Matthew Herman wrote:
>>
>>>I own cm6000 and I have found it to be an interesting opponent (I am a USCF
>>>expert and a WBCA master). However, one thing that i have found is that it
>>>repeatedly falls for closed center & KID type kingside attacks.. of course
>>>usually all programs fall for this once in a while but CM6k repeatedly falls for
>>>it.. apart from those types of anti-computer ideas it is a very tough opponent.
>>>If you have 20$-30$ and already have another program like fritz . you might want
>>>to buy it.. one thing that is a shame is that it doesnt have the infinite
>>>analysis where it goes with you when you are trying to analyze a game by hand..
>>>and the engine is not compatible with other programs.. C-players and below may
>>>get a kick out of the different personalities and the Josh Waitzkin annotated
>>>games. The database functions are MUCH better than the previous "multimedia"
>>>versions (CM5k and cm5500). However, still not up to par with fritz5 or rebel.
>>>Also the 3-d boards etc.. are not eye-friendly.. so you may end up using just
>>>the 2-d boards.. as they are also faster when playing a quick game. One PAIN in
>>>the neck is when you are blitzing and you lose control of the piece so it
>>>becomes an "illegal move" and hten you lose 10 seconds on your clock while the
>>>"voice" says something like "Knights cannot move along diagonals, knight moves
>>>are always l-shaped".. I think there is a way to turn this off but i haven't
>>>found it yet. All in all the engine is about 2250-2300 strength and the
>>>differnet personalities can give you some interesting entertainment (they all
>>>have different styles). So consider buying it, but don't expect an engine as
>>>strong as fritz/rebel or the same database functions.
>>
>>You can turn off the voice-annotated illegal move commentary in the "Sound..."
>>menuitem under the "Environment" menu. In the Sound dialog, choose the "Piece
>>Movement" tab, and then uncheck the "Illegal Move Commentary" checkbox.
>>
>>Also, how can you say that Chessmaster 6000 is in the 2250-2300 range when it
>>has been shown here, on more than one occasion, to beat programs that have been
>>rated at or above 2500 (e.g. Junior 5.0, rated in the 2570-2610 range on
>>high-end PCs)?
>>
>>Chessmaster 5000 was SSDF rated at 2387 on a Pentium 90, and someone here (Odell
>>Hall, rated at 2280) just stated that Chessmaster 4000 beat him "convincingly"
>>in a 6-game match (4.5-1.5)! Quite a few people have stated that CM6000's engine
>>is noticeably better than previous versions of Chessmaster. I have no doubt
>>that, on a high-end PC, CM6000 will be rated at least 2550.
>>
>>jm
>
>Yes when I said that it was 2300 that was when I was running it on a P120.
>Now I am on a PII450 and it is 2500-2600 range sorry for the misunderstanding.
>In some matches I have done it has shown fritz to be stronger than CM6k though
>maybe by 50-100 elo points. It has beaten Junior 5 yes.. but was it a better
>opening book? Was it a trap? I will look over the games.. The CM6k engines DO
>get better as they bring out new ones.. however, I still trust the Fritz5
>analysis more than the Cm6k.. yes it is 2500 range.. I am uscf 2050 and I played
>a match with it at g/20 (fast time controls favor computers?) and tied 2-2.
>Albeit I am a 2300 blitz player so there may be something there but it is strong
>however at the same time controls I played fritz and lost 1-3. So its
>interesting.. I am NOT saying this without having first used these programs (I
>have Cm5k, cm5500 and cm6k). Sorry for the misunderstanding..
>
>Yes it is a strong program but I prefer Fritz5 (N.B. I don't work for ChessBase
>or Rebel :) )
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