Author: Matthew Herman
Date: 14:41:08 12/04/98
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On December 04, 1998 at 15:00:48, John Merlino wrote: >On December 04, 1998 at 14:02:05, Matthew Herman wrote: > >>I own cm6000 and I have found it to be an interesting opponent (I am a USCF >>expert and a WBCA master). However, one thing that i have found is that it >>repeatedly falls for closed center & KID type kingside attacks.. of course >>usually all programs fall for this once in a while but CM6k repeatedly falls for >>it.. apart from those types of anti-computer ideas it is a very tough opponent. >>If you have 20$-30$ and already have another program like fritz . you might want >>to buy it.. one thing that is a shame is that it doesnt have the infinite >>analysis where it goes with you when you are trying to analyze a game by hand.. >>and the engine is not compatible with other programs.. C-players and below may >>get a kick out of the different personalities and the Josh Waitzkin annotated >>games. The database functions are MUCH better than the previous "multimedia" >>versions (CM5k and cm5500). However, still not up to par with fritz5 or rebel. >>Also the 3-d boards etc.. are not eye-friendly.. so you may end up using just >>the 2-d boards.. as they are also faster when playing a quick game. One PAIN in >>the neck is when you are blitzing and you lose control of the piece so it >>becomes an "illegal move" and hten you lose 10 seconds on your clock while the >>"voice" says something like "Knights cannot move along diagonals, knight moves >>are always l-shaped".. I think there is a way to turn this off but i haven't >>found it yet. All in all the engine is about 2250-2300 strength and the >>differnet personalities can give you some interesting entertainment (they all >>have different styles). So consider buying it, but don't expect an engine as >>strong as fritz/rebel or the same database functions. > >You can turn off the voice-annotated illegal move commentary in the "Sound..." >menuitem under the "Environment" menu. In the Sound dialog, choose the "Piece >Movement" tab, and then uncheck the "Illegal Move Commentary" checkbox. > >Also, how can you say that Chessmaster 6000 is in the 2250-2300 range when it >has been shown here, on more than one occasion, to beat programs that have been >rated at or above 2500 (e.g. Junior 5.0, rated in the 2570-2610 range on >high-end PCs)? > >Chessmaster 5000 was SSDF rated at 2387 on a Pentium 90, and someone here (Odell >Hall, rated at 2280) just stated that Chessmaster 4000 beat him "convincingly" >in a 6-game match (4.5-1.5)! Quite a few people have stated that CM6000's engine >is noticeably better than previous versions of Chessmaster. I have no doubt >that, on a high-end PC, CM6000 will be rated at least 2550. > >jm Yes when I said that it was 2300 that was when I was running it on a P120. Now I am on a PII450 and it is 2500-2600 range sorry for the misunderstanding. In some matches I have done it has shown fritz to be stronger than CM6k though maybe by 50-100 elo points. It has beaten Junior 5 yes.. but was it a better opening book? Was it a trap? I will look over the games.. The CM6k engines DO get better as they bring out new ones.. however, I still trust the Fritz5 analysis more than the Cm6k.. yes it is 2500 range.. I am uscf 2050 and I played a match with it at g/20 (fast time controls favor computers?) and tied 2-2. Albeit I am a 2300 blitz player so there may be something there but it is strong however at the same time controls I played fritz and lost 1-3. So its interesting.. I am NOT saying this without having first used these programs (I have Cm5k, cm5500 and cm6k). Sorry for the misunderstanding.. Yes it is a strong program but I prefer Fritz5 (N.B. I don't work for ChessBase or Rebel :) )
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