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Subject: Re: Shredder 8 - Fritz 8 4 - 16 !!

Author: m.d.hurd

Date: 11:56:07 02/07/04

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On February 07, 2004 at 14:01:05, Uri Blass wrote:

>On February 07, 2004 at 13:44:15, m.d.hurd wrote:
>
>>On February 07, 2004 at 12:55:20, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>
>>>Fritz 8 (8.0.0.8) seems to be real Angstgegner for Shredder 8. I played 20 games
>>>match
>>>with SEE opening positions. PC is P4 2,4 Ghz, level 60/15, hash 128MB, ponder
>>>and learning
>>>disabled. The score was one of most stunning for me ever:
>>>
>>>  60/15m SEE
>>>Fritz 8       111111½11½½½111½½½1½ 16.0/20
>>>Shredder 8    000000½00½½½000½½½0½  4.0/20
>>>
>>>When looking for games nps and depth were OK for Shredder 8 no problem anywere.
>>>What's the probabilty for this kind of result, when S8 and F8 are quite equal
>>>in strength?
>>>
>>>JOuni
>>
>>
>>Hi Jouni
>>
>>I just ran a similar match with Shredder 8 gambit against Deep Fritz 8. Nunn
>>openings 128 mb hash each engine, game in 15 mins. Learn file set as read only.
>>
>>ATHLON2400XP, Blitz:15'  0
>>
>>                             12345678901234567890
>>1   Shredder 8 Gambit  2750  1½1110111010111½00½1 13.5/20
>>2   Deep Fritz 8       2700  0½0001000101000½11½0  6.5/20
>>
>>Just to make certain I ran another set of games with exactly the same
>>conditions.
>>
>>ATHLON2400XP, Blitz:15'  0
>>
>>                             12345678901234567890
>>1   Shredder 8 Gambit  2750  1½111010½0½0½11½0001 10.5/20
>>2   Deep Fritz 8       2700  0½000101½1½1½00½1110  9.5/20
>>
>>I expected the score to be more or less the same, however they are not. I guess
>>there must be some sort of random factor.
>
>I am not sure if there was a random factor.
>
>It is also possible that Deep Fritz learned from the games of the first match.
>I see that it got better result in games 8,9,11,13,19
>
>Uri


As far as I know Deep Fritz 8 has no position learning. The Learning file within
Shredder 8 was set to read only.

Mike



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