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Subject: Re: Nolot #3 - In defense of GM Smagin

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 10:51:47 02/09/04

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On February 09, 2004 at 09:21:59, Uri Blass wrote:

>On February 09, 2004 at 08:39:31, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>On February 08, 2004 at 22:50:05, Mike Byrne wrote:
>>
>>>If case you have not figured this out by now, my intent it to continue with
>>>posting all 11 of the Nolot positions, dig up the game score from the actual
>>>game -- post the orginal comments made by Pierre Nolot (original author of the
>>>article where these positions were discussed)  and Feng-Hsiung Hsu, Deep Blue
>>>Inventor, who was preparing Deep Thought/Deep Blue for the match with Kasparov
>>>that was to come in 1995 and took a keen interest in these positions.  He
>>>believed that if Deep Blue were able to solve  these type of  positions quickly,
>>>Deep Blue would have a very good shot at defeating Kasparov. It is interesting
>>>to see what today's software on fast hardware  think of these positions.
>>>
>>>So far these posts have gone very well and I appeciate everyone who has
>>>particpated in this excercise.
>>>
>>>Nolot #3 is  a semi-controversial position as there are many doubters that the
>>>claimed winning move is truly a forced win.  When one also considers the nearly
>>>200 point in the ratings of the particpants, it easier to understand why the
>>>favored player, GM Sergey Smagin, now 47, played the daring and very complicated
>>
>>[d]r2qk2r/ppp1b1pp/2n1p3/3pP1n1/3P2b1/2PB1NN1/PP4PP/R1BQK2R w - - bm Nxg5; 3
>>f3g5
>>
>>I have studied it too and came to the conclusion that Nxg5 is a beautiful and
>>very deep win. Nothing controversial about it.
>>
>>Please realise Feng-Hsiung Hsu has a rating of a 1000 points or so and his thing
>>positional 2000 or so. He doesn't realize of course that black effectively is
>>not playing after Nxg5.
>
>Hsu's rating is irrelevant for discussion about this position.

Proof me that it is irrelevant.

The only proof we have is that 2400+ rated engines when you start using them for
your correspondence games that they achieve 2000 rating.

So if there is any proof here it is that your influence is a very bad one for
the game of chess!!

>I did not study this position but these kind of posts is the reason that people
>do not like you.

So you didn't even study it. You are a @#(@#(!(!.

You comment on something without even having studied it. I spent a full day to
this position some years ago!

It is a beautiful sacrafice.

Knowing that your analysis are 2000 rating, thanks to your brains managing to
bring down the level of engines, i suggest you take 2 weeks.

>You could claim that you believe that Nxg5 is better without becoming personal
>against Hsu but unfortunately instead of comparing evaluation of positions after
>Nxg5 and Bxg5 you chose to go for a personal attack.
>Uri

If you feel that a person is worth less when his chess rating is lower then that
is your interpretation. Perhaps i don't even need to throw you from that 10
story hotel in Tel Aviv; you will jump yourself knowing your interpretation is
that you failed in live because you have a bad chess level!



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