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Subject: Re: Geldbeschaffungsmassnahme

Author: Drexel,Michael

Date: 16:15:20 02/13/04

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On February 13, 2004 at 19:04:27, Drexel,Michael wrote:

>On February 13, 2004 at 17:27:35, martin fierz wrote:
>
>>On February 13, 2004 at 16:45:18, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>>
>>>On February 13, 2004 at 06:58:02, David Dory wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 13, 2004 at 00:28:13, Paul Doire wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>>I am interested in knowing the strengths of all who post here.
>>>>>Whether it is USCF or FIDE.To import chess knowledge into chess programs
>>>>>seems to require the programmer to be strong or at minimum, their resources to
>>>>>be strong. Who dares to tell...and dares to tell of those who will not tell.
>>>>>Some human analysis we see would carry more weight knowing the strength of the
>>>>>analyst. Do you dare to tell?
>>>>>
>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>Paul
>>>>
>>>>I believe Vincent Diepeven, as an FM, would be our strongest OTB player, unless
>>>>Hsu were to post here (just kidding, Vincent! :-P). I am sure many, like myself,
>>>>prefer programming and operating engines (theirs and others), rather than
>>>>playing chess OTB, and have no rating.
>>>
>>>Sorry, can't translate "Geldbeschaffungsmassnahme". :)
>>
>>let me try: the FM title is an attempt of FIDE to make money. to increase their
>>target market, they have even created a new product called "candidate master" or
>>CM, which you get for reaching a 2200 rating.
>>
>>>You should know that a Fide Master title is worth absolutely nothing in chess.
>>>It's just a clever way for FIDE to get money.
>>
>>"worth nothing"? i don't know - being an FM myself (the swiss federation pays
>>for you automatically if you reach the required rating...), i know it's not all
>>that much, but hey, it just means you reached a 2300 rating at some time. that's
>>a bit better than nothing i would say :-)
>
>In general it means little.
>It depends on the total number of rated games you have played.
>
>>
>>
>>>This is what I usually do with a "normal" FM:
>>[snip]
>>if you usually win against FMs in short order, then why is your DWZ 2232? ;-)
>
>I was half joking.
>
>There are almost 200 German Fidemasters with a DWZ < 2232.
>About 50% are relatively old.
>
>This case is not unusual in Germany for example:
>
>http://www.schachbund.de/cgi-bin/dwz/spieler.pl?zps=64104-329

Actually this isn't the best example. (Nur drei Auswertungen)
This one is better:

http://www.schachbund.de/cgi-bin/dwz/spieler.pl?zps=61517-110

>
>Michael
>
>>
>>cheers
>>  martin



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