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Subject: Re: Geldbeschaffungsmassnahme

Author: Drexel,Michael

Date: 16:04:27 02/13/04

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On February 13, 2004 at 17:27:35, martin fierz wrote:

>On February 13, 2004 at 16:45:18, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>
>>On February 13, 2004 at 06:58:02, David Dory wrote:
>>
>>>On February 13, 2004 at 00:28:13, Paul Doire wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi All,
>>>>
>>>>I am interested in knowing the strengths of all who post here.
>>>>Whether it is USCF or FIDE.To import chess knowledge into chess programs
>>>>seems to require the programmer to be strong or at minimum, their resources to
>>>>be strong. Who dares to tell...and dares to tell of those who will not tell.
>>>>Some human analysis we see would carry more weight knowing the strength of the
>>>>analyst. Do you dare to tell?
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Paul
>>>
>>>I believe Vincent Diepeven, as an FM, would be our strongest OTB player, unless
>>>Hsu were to post here (just kidding, Vincent! :-P). I am sure many, like myself,
>>>prefer programming and operating engines (theirs and others), rather than
>>>playing chess OTB, and have no rating.
>>
>>Sorry, can't translate "Geldbeschaffungsmassnahme". :)
>
>let me try: the FM title is an attempt of FIDE to make money. to increase their
>target market, they have even created a new product called "candidate master" or
>CM, which you get for reaching a 2200 rating.
>
>>You should know that a Fide Master title is worth absolutely nothing in chess.
>>It's just a clever way for FIDE to get money.
>
>"worth nothing"? i don't know - being an FM myself (the swiss federation pays
>for you automatically if you reach the required rating...), i know it's not all
>that much, but hey, it just means you reached a 2300 rating at some time. that's
>a bit better than nothing i would say :-)

In general it means little.
It depends on the total number of rated games you have played.

>
>
>>This is what I usually do with a "normal" FM:
>[snip]
>if you usually win against FMs in short order, then why is your DWZ 2232? ;-)

I was half joking.

There are almost 200 German Fidemasters with a DWZ < 2232.
About 50% are relatively old.

This case is not unusual in Germany for example:

http://www.schachbund.de/cgi-bin/dwz/spieler.pl?zps=64104-329

Michael

>
>cheers
>  martin



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