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Subject: Re: Is this 2800 level play?

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 11:16:25 02/19/04

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On February 19, 2004 at 13:54:18, Thorsten Czub wrote:

>On February 19, 2004 at 13:38:37, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>Junior5 also could find sacrifice against Nimzo when Junior6 could not find it
>>and the reason was not throwing knowledge but reducing the value of pawns that
>>had positive effects in other positions.
>>
>>Uri
>
>when a program makes the same NPS but comes 2 or 3 searches deeper,
>it prunes more or uses less knowledge in those positions that do not need this
>knowledge. this leads to overseeing things other programs DO SEE because they
>have still the full knowledge or do not prune that heavy.

I think that pruning more is the way to go and not using less knowledge.
programs search too many illogical moves.

I did not buy shredder8 so I tried 7.04 on my A1000


Here is the analysis and shredder7.04 needs some minutes to avoid 0-0

French
r3k2r/p1qbnppp/1pn1p3/2ppP3/P2P4/2PB1N2/2P2PPP/R1BQ1RK1 b kq - 0 1

Analysis by Shredder 7.04:

11...cxd4 12.cxd4
  ²  (0.37)   Depth: 1/2   00:00:00
11...cxd4 12.cxd4
  ²  (0.37)   Depth: 1/2   00:00:00
11...0-0
  ³  (-0.27)   Depth: 1/15   00:00:00
11...0-0
  ³  (-0.27)   Depth: 1/15   00:00:00
11...0-0 12.Bg5
  =  (-0.09)   Depth: 2/15   00:00:00
11...0-0 12.Bg5 Nf5 13.Bxf5 exf5 14.dxc5
  =  (-0.16)   Depth: 3/17   00:00:00
11...0-0 12.Ng5 f5 13.exf6
  =  (0.10)   Depth: 4/17   00:00:00
11...0-0 12.Ng5 h6 13.Bh7+ Kh8
  =  (0.10)   Depth: 4/17   00:00:00
11...h6 12.Bf4 0-0 13.Qe2
  =  (0.08)   Depth: 4/17   00:00:00
11...h6 12.Bf4 0-0 13.Qe2
  =  (0.08)   Depth: 4/17   00:00:00
11...Ng6 12.Bg5 h6 13.Bd8
  =  (0.07)   Depth: 4/17   00:00:00
11...Ng6 12.Bg5 h6 13.Be3
  =  (0.02)   Depth: 4/17   00:00:00
11...Ng6 12.Qe2 0-0 13.Bg5 f5 14.exf6 gxf6
  =  (0.19)   Depth: 5/17   00:00:00
11...0-0 12.Ng5 h6 13.Bh7+ Kh8
  =  (0.18)   Depth: 5/17   00:00:00
11...0-0 12.Bf4 Rac8 13.Qd2 Nf5 14.Bxf5 exf5 15.dxc5
  =  (-0.14)   Depth: 5/17   00:00:00
11...0-0 12.Re1 h6 13.Bf4 Nf5 14.Bxf5 exf5 15.dxc5
  =  (-0.10)   Depth: 6/17   00:00:00  37kN
11...0-0 12.Bf4 Ng6 13.dxc5 Nxf4
  =  (-0.09)   Depth: 7/21   00:00:01  104kN
11...0-0 12.Bf4 f5 13.Qd2 Nxd4 14.cxd4 Qxe5
  =  (-0.08)   Depth: 8/23   00:00:02  330kN
11...0-0 12.Bf4 h6 13.Qd2 Rac8 14.Rfd1 Rfe8 15.Bg6
  =  (-0.04)   Depth: 9/26   00:00:04  598kN
11...0-0 12.Re1 h6 13.Be3 cxd4 14.cxd4 Nb4 15.Bf4 Nxd3 16.Qc1 Nxc1
  =  (-0.07)   Depth: 10/27   00:00:18  2474kN
11...0-0 12.Ba3 Rfe8 13.Re1 Na5 14.Qd2 Rab8 15.Bb2 h6 16.Nh4 Nc4 17.Bxc4 dxc4
  =  (-0.06)   Depth: 11/32   00:00:39  5502kN
11...0-0 12.Ba3 Rfe8 13.Re1 Rad8 14.Qd2 Na5 15.Qf4 Ng6 16.Qg4 Nc4
  =  (0.08)   Depth: 12/33   00:01:03  8906kN
11...0-0 12.Bxh7+ Kxh7 13.Ng5+ Kg6 14.h4 Qc8 15.h5+ Kh6 16.Qf3 Rg8 17.Bd2 Rf8
18.Qg4 Nxd4 19.cxd4
  ²  (0.27)   Depth: 13/39   00:04:14  36973kN
11...Rb8 12.Nh4 cxd4 13.cxd4 Nxd4 14.Qg4 Ndc6 15.Qxg7 Qxe5 16.Qxe5 Nxe5 17.Re1
Nxd3
  ²  (0.26)   Depth: 13/39   00:04:28  38963kN
11...Rb8 12.Ba3 Na5 13.Ng5 h6 14.Qh5 0-0 15.Bh7+ Kh8 16.Nxf7+ Kxh7 17.Qxh6+ gxh6
  =  (0.14)   Depth: 13/39   00:06:24  54137kN

(Blass, Tel-Aviv 19.02.2004)



Uri



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