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Subject: Re: Which Ruffian is the strongest?

Author: Eduard Nemeth

Date: 16:16:10 02/27/04

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On February 27, 2004 at 17:25:15, Djordje Vidanovic wrote:

>On February 27, 2004 at 15:19:39, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>Started a little contest at G/10 on AMD 950 MHz, so far this is the output:
>>
>>   Program         Elo    +   -   Games   Score   Av.Op.  Draws
>> 1 List512       : 2629  296 207     8    68.8 %   2492   37.5 %
>> 2 Ruffian_105   : 2611  360 201     7    64.3 %   2509   42.9 %
>> 3 Rebel12_CB    : 2601  378 251     7    57.1 %   2551   28.6 %
>> 4 Ruffian_210   : 2595  310 249     8    62.5 %   2506   25.0 %
>> 5 Ruffian_101   : 2568  310 387     8    62.5 %   2480    0.0 %
>> 6 Aristarch 4.41: 2541  325 292     8    56.2 %   2498   12.5 %
>> 7 Delfi-440     : 2523  325 292     8    56.2 %   2479   12.5 %
>> 8 Gothmog       : 2500  251 378     7    42.9 %   2550   28.6 %
>> 9 Ruffian_202   : 2485  343 343     7    50.0 %   2485   14.3 %
>>10 Glc300        : 2466  343 343     7    50.0 %   2466   14.3 %
>>11 DeepSjeng     : 2406  207 296     8    31.2 %   2543   37.5 %
>>12 Quark-232-net : 2399  249 310     8    37.5 %   2488   25.0 %
>>13 ELChinito 3.25: 2392  333 360     7    35.7 %   2494   14.3 %
>>14 Crafty-1910   : 2290  270 284     8    25.0 %   2481   25.0 %
>>
>>Initial indications are that all of the Ruffians are about the same strength.
>>But more data may change that appearance significantly.
>
>
>In case you wonder, I think that I might be of some help.  You listed almost all
>the available versions up there, almost all but one:  Ruffian Leiden 2003 BTW,
>the version that won the Dutch Open 2003.
>And that one is the strongest of all, at least in my testing:  more than 5000
>games at different although fast time controls (longest was G/45, played on two
>fast machines:  P4-2.4 and Athlon 2800+ Tbred).
>Of course, I am aware of some other credible data (cf. Sarah Bird, for example)
>that point in a different direction. However, none of the testers has done so
>much testing with the Leiden version which is simply neglected for reasons
>unknown to me.  Even the mammoth effort of Leo Dijksman, a person of absolute
>integrity, has somehow "missed" to test the Leiden version.  Most probably due
>to the _unnecessary_ and very much _premature_ hype about Ruffian 2.0.0 (almost
>untested by me, at least).
>
>I am as sure as one can reasonably be that the Leiden version of Ruffian would
>perform about 30-40 Elo better than _any_ other version of Ruffian in SSDF
>testing and that it should place about as high as CM 9000.
>
>Djordje

Hello Djordje!

Can it be the case, that Ruffian 2.0.0 plays not good with the Leiden BOOK?

I seems that this book is optimized for Ruffian _leiden but not for Ruffian 2.0

Or?

Best,
Eduard




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