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Subject: Re: Which Ruffian is the strongest?

Author: Djordje Vidanovic

Date: 14:25:15 02/27/04

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On February 27, 2004 at 15:19:39, Dann Corbit wrote:

>Started a little contest at G/10 on AMD 950 MHz, so far this is the output:
>
>   Program         Elo    +   -   Games   Score   Av.Op.  Draws
> 1 List512       : 2629  296 207     8    68.8 %   2492   37.5 %
> 2 Ruffian_105   : 2611  360 201     7    64.3 %   2509   42.9 %
> 3 Rebel12_CB    : 2601  378 251     7    57.1 %   2551   28.6 %
> 4 Ruffian_210   : 2595  310 249     8    62.5 %   2506   25.0 %
> 5 Ruffian_101   : 2568  310 387     8    62.5 %   2480    0.0 %
> 6 Aristarch 4.41: 2541  325 292     8    56.2 %   2498   12.5 %
> 7 Delfi-440     : 2523  325 292     8    56.2 %   2479   12.5 %
> 8 Gothmog       : 2500  251 378     7    42.9 %   2550   28.6 %
> 9 Ruffian_202   : 2485  343 343     7    50.0 %   2485   14.3 %
>10 Glc300        : 2466  343 343     7    50.0 %   2466   14.3 %
>11 DeepSjeng     : 2406  207 296     8    31.2 %   2543   37.5 %
>12 Quark-232-net : 2399  249 310     8    37.5 %   2488   25.0 %
>13 ELChinito 3.25: 2392  333 360     7    35.7 %   2494   14.3 %
>14 Crafty-1910   : 2290  270 284     8    25.0 %   2481   25.0 %
>
>Initial indications are that all of the Ruffians are about the same strength.
>But more data may change that appearance significantly.


In case you wonder, I think that I might be of some help.  You listed almost all
the available versions up there, almost all but one:  Ruffian Leiden 2003 BTW,
the version that won the Dutch Open 2003.
And that one is the strongest of all, at least in my testing:  more than 5000
games at different although fast time controls (longest was G/45, played on two
fast machines:  P4-2.4 and Athlon 2800+ Tbred).
Of course, I am aware of some other credible data (cf. Sarah Bird, for example)
that point in a different direction. However, none of the testers has done so
much testing with the Leiden version which is simply neglected for reasons
unknown to me.  Even the mammoth effort of Leo Dijksman, a person of absolute
integrity, has somehow "missed" to test the Leiden version.  Most probably due
to the _unnecessary_ and very much _premature_ hype about Ruffian 2.0.0 (almost
untested by me, at least).

I am as sure as one can reasonably be that the Leiden version of Ruffian would
perform about 30-40 Elo better than _any_ other version of Ruffian in SSDF
testing and that it should place about as high as CM 9000.

Djordje



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