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Subject: Re: Why dont engines support the egtb format that Chessmaster uses?

Author: Johan de Koning

Date: 23:19:02 04/01/04

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On April 01, 2004 at 14:07:22, Kurt Utzinger wrote:

>On April 01, 2004 at 13:56:25, Jason Kent wrote:
>
>>I just read this in the FEG.txt that i got off the chessmaster website.
>>
>>XVI. WHY THE FEG FORMAT? ================================================
>>
>>Perhaps, after reading all of this, you are wondering why Chessmaster
>>9000 does not use either of the more commonly used EGDB formats, namely
>>those created by Eugene Nalimov or Ken Thompson (both of which bear the
>>names of their creators). There are many reasons for this:
>>
>>1. FEG data is about 20% smaller. Additionally, half-sets can be used if
>>   hard drive space is an issue, making a "full useable" file set that is
>>   almost 1/3 the size of the complete Nalimov file set.
>>2. FEG generation is much faster and doesn't need a huge amount of free
>>   RAM to create a set of files.
>>3. FEG can do any 6-man files on a 32-bit platform.
>>4. The Thompson format is not a complete set (especially pawns on both
>>   sides are lacking).
>>5. The Thompson format stores DTC (Distance to Conversion) values,
>>   meaning that it stores the number of moves to either mate OR to a
>>   capture/promotion, and will play whichever move has the smallest
>>   winning value. This can result in silly moves (a capture that leads to
>>   a mate in eight moves instead of a non-capture that leads to mate in
>>   three moves).
>>6. Since Chessmaster 9000 is a mass market product, the majority of its
>>   users are not aware of these other formats and how to get them. Also
>>   for the ease of development it is easier not to be dependent on
>>   technical support for data that was created using tools that were not
>>   developed by Ubi Soft.
>
>     Hi Jason
>     Maybe you have asked the wrong question: "Why does Chessmaster 9000
>     not support the egtb format that all other engines do?".

See above.
duh! :-)
Particularly point 6.

... Johan



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