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Subject: Re: Why dont engines support the egtb format that Chessmaster uses?

Author: Kurt Utzinger

Date: 11:07:22 04/01/04

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On April 01, 2004 at 13:56:25, Jason Kent wrote:

>I just read this in the FEG.txt that i got off the chessmaster website.
>
>XVI. WHY THE FEG FORMAT? ================================================
>
>Perhaps, after reading all of this, you are wondering why Chessmaster
>9000 does not use either of the more commonly used EGDB formats, namely
>those created by Eugene Nalimov or Ken Thompson (both of which bear the
>names of their creators). There are many reasons for this:
>
>1. FEG data is about 20% smaller. Additionally, half-sets can be used if
>   hard drive space is an issue, making a "full useable" file set that is
>   almost 1/3 the size of the complete Nalimov file set.
>2. FEG generation is much faster and doesn't need a huge amount of free
>   RAM to create a set of files.
>3. FEG can do any 6-man files on a 32-bit platform.
>4. The Thompson format is not a complete set (especially pawns on both
>   sides are lacking).
>5. The Thompson format stores DTC (Distance to Conversion) values,
>   meaning that it stores the number of moves to either mate OR to a
>   capture/promotion, and will play whichever move has the smallest
>   winning value. This can result in silly moves (a capture that leads to
>   a mate in eight moves instead of a non-capture that leads to mate in
>   three moves).
>6. Since Chessmaster 9000 is a mass market product, the majority of its
>   users are not aware of these other formats and how to get them. Also
>   for the ease of development it is easier not to be dependent on
>   technical support for data that was created using tools that were not
>   developed by Ubi Soft.

     Hi Jason
     Maybe you have asked the wrong question: "Why does Chessmaster 9000
     not support the egtb format that all other engines do?".
     Kurt



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