Author: John Merlino
Date: 12:38:27 04/02/04
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On April 02, 2004 at 15:22:52, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >On April 02, 2004 at 15:09:58, John Merlino wrote: > >>On April 02, 2004 at 14:55:48, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On April 02, 2004 at 12:20:01, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >>> >>>>On April 02, 2004 at 11:46:32, Eugene Nalimov wrote: >>>> >>>>>Vincent, I did not gave you permission to use *my* code in your convertor, or I >>>>>am missing something? >>>> >>>>Are you planning to sue me? >>>> >>>>Who says i have a special convertor by the way? >>>> >>>>Why wouldn't it be an option in an engine of mine? >>>> >>>>Note i always found your claims ridicioulous. Really sick microsoft way of doing >>>>things. >>>> >>>>Your first releases of your egtb code there was no copyright claim anywhere of >>>>you. It was released for the public. >>>> >>>>Then later "for commercial usage" one needed permission. >>>> >>>>By the way my commercial diep version will not have a byte of >>>>your code of course. >>> >>>I do not think that a lot of people will buy commercial chess programs in the >>>future because they will be able to get free programs of similiar level. >>> >>>In the past programmers made their program to make money. >>>I think that today most of the new programmers do not improve their program to >>>make money but to make people happy and I will not be surprised to see new free >>>smarthink or new free gothmog that is significantly better than Ruffian in less >>>than 2 years. >>> >>>Uri >> >>You're assuming that, for most people, the most important part of a chess >>program is the strength of the chess engine. The reality is that, for many MANY >>people, this is not as important as the overall feature set, tutorial content, >>UI quality and (in Chessmaster's case) reputation of the program. The vast >>majority of "typical computer chess software users" couldn't care less if the >>engine was Super-GM strength or GM strength...or even IM strength! >> >>Even if there were a hundred free Winboard engines stronger than The King, >>people would still buy Chessmaster because of the incredible value of the entire >>software package. >> >>Additionally, people typically don't find out about the existence of free >>engines without first delving into computer chess via a commercial package. I >>don't know how many people download Crafty each year, but I would suspect that >>each one of them has bought a commercial program first. >> >>jm > >Additionally the only 2 programs that play very human a look like when weakened >to 600 level are The King and DIEP. Glad that you mentioned that. Obviously, I don't think anybody would want to play against Kasparov every game. People need to feel like they have a chance to win, but not a GUARANTEED win either. A chess engine needs to be "believably scalable", meaning that it can play at any level without obviously giving away pieces. I have never seen DIEP in action, but The King is very well-known for this ability. jm
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