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Subject: Re: Why dont engines support the egtb format that Chessmaster uses?

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 12:22:52 04/02/04

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On April 02, 2004 at 15:09:58, John Merlino wrote:

>On April 02, 2004 at 14:55:48, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On April 02, 2004 at 12:20:01, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>
>>>On April 02, 2004 at 11:46:32, Eugene Nalimov wrote:
>>>
>>>>Vincent, I did not gave you permission to use *my* code in your convertor, or I
>>>>am missing something?
>>>
>>>Are you planning to sue me?
>>>
>>>Who says i have a special convertor by the way?
>>>
>>>Why wouldn't it be an option in an engine of mine?
>>>
>>>Note i always found your claims ridicioulous. Really sick microsoft way of doing
>>>things.
>>>
>>>Your first releases of your egtb code there was no copyright claim anywhere of
>>>you. It was released for the public.
>>>
>>>Then later "for commercial usage" one needed permission.
>>>
>>>By the way my commercial diep version will not have a byte of
>>>your code of course.
>>
>>I do not think that a lot of people will buy commercial chess programs in the
>>future because they will be able to get free programs of similiar level.
>>
>>In the past programmers made their program to make money.
>>I think that today most of the new programmers do not improve their program to
>>make money but to make people happy and I will not be surprised to see new free
>>smarthink or new free gothmog that is significantly better than Ruffian in less
>>than 2 years.
>>
>>Uri
>
>You're assuming that, for most people, the most important part of a chess
>program is the strength of the chess engine. The reality is that, for many MANY
>people, this is not as important as the overall feature set, tutorial content,
>UI quality and (in Chessmaster's case) reputation of the program. The vast
>majority of "typical computer chess software users" couldn't care less if the
>engine was Super-GM strength or GM strength...or even IM strength!
>
>Even if there were a hundred free Winboard engines stronger than The King,
>people would still buy Chessmaster because of the incredible value of the entire
>software package.
>
>Additionally, people typically don't find out about the existence of free
>engines without first delving into computer chess via a commercial package. I
>don't know how many people download Crafty each year, but I would suspect that
>each one of them has bought a commercial program first.
>
>jm

Additionally the only 2 programs that play very human a look like when weakened
to 600 level are The King and DIEP.




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