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Subject: Re: Lets all buy Weak Engines

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 13:42:12 04/02/04

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On April 02, 2004 at 16:33:21, Uri Blass wrote:

>On April 02, 2004 at 16:23:54, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On April 02, 2004 at 16:17:47, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On April 02, 2004 at 15:04:15, martin fierz wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 02, 2004 at 12:36:58, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On April 02, 2004 at 12:09:29, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On April 02, 2004 at 11:46:56, Christian Koch wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>see http://rahman85.tripod.com/rahman.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>All engines goes commercial !
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I hold me then only the best 5 (MAX)!
>>>>>>Is this the way?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Eduard
>>>>>
>>>>>All the engines can go commercial, but most people will only buy the top 5 rated
>>>>>by the SSDF and other Rating agencies.
>>>>>
>>>>>Jorge
>>>>
>>>>"let's all buy weak engines" - ahem, do you mean to imply that ktulu is weak??
>>>>ktulu is a very good free engine, and if version 5 gets something like 50-100
>>>>points better it is certainly a reasonable move to make it commercial...
>>>>
>>>>cheers
>>>>  martin
>>>
>>>Crafty level engines are considered as weak relative to the commercial and even
>>>going 100 elo higher is not enough.
>>>
>>>I guess that ktulu needs to get at least 150 elo better to be in the same league
>>>as Junior or Fritz that mean competing for the second place after shredder.
>>
>>That's on the one hand.  (Actually, 200 will be needed for
>>ChessTiger/Junior/Fritz territory I think).
>>
>>On the other hand, 100 Elo will make it stronger than many engines already
>>professional.  From Leo's list we have this:
>>
>>1    0    DeepSjeng 1.5 *          2734   0      236
>>2    0    The King 3.23 *          2696   0      68
>>3    0    Ruffian 2.0.0 *          2691   0      304
>>4    0    Gandalf 4.32h *          2650   0      340
>>5    0    Aristarch 4.21           2642   0      382
>>6    0    Little Goliath 3.9 po    2627   0      380
>>7    0    Rebel 12 *               2627   0      68
>>8    0    SmarThink 0.17a          2623   0      515
>>9    0    WARP 0.58 **             2615   0      252
>>10   0    GreenLightChess 3.00     2614   0      464
>>11   0    Crafty 19.06             2596   0      416
>>12   0    Yace Paderborn           2582   0      488
>>13   0    Zarkov 4.5e **           2578   0      340
>>14   0    Quark 2.05b              2547   0      432
>>15   0    Dragon 4.5               2545   0      532
>>16   0    Nejmet 3.07              2535   0      528
>>17   0    Ktulu 4.1                2531   0      68
>>
>>2531 + 150 = 2681 which would be about the level of Rebel and Gandalf on this
>>list.
>>
>>Zarkov is available commercially (Bookup sells it IIRC) and is very near to the
>>strength of Ktulu.
>
>This rating is for ktulu4.1 and ktulu4.2 may be slightly better.

Yes, I think probably it is.



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