Author: Omid David Tabibi
Date: 14:33:48 04/29/04
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On April 29, 2004 at 13:40:33, Anthony Cozzie wrote: >On April 29, 2004 at 11:28:04, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On April 29, 2004 at 04:09:43, Omid David Tabibi wrote: >> >>>On April 28, 2004 at 19:25:34, ERIQ wrote: >>> >>>>On April 28, 2004 at 14:30:13, Chris Taylor wrote: >>>> >>>>>The latest and greatest did really well, in the last computer contest. So, will a Windows version (XP or lesser) be made ready for buying? >>>> >>>>amazing! there is one buyer :) >>>> >>>>>I have my credit card ready? I can even send a postal order, or cheque! >>>> >>>>wow!! >>>> >>>>>It will make a nice addition to an already growing pile of Chess Stuff! >>>> >>>>not sure why?! but to each his own. >>>> >>>>IMO. diep couldn't beat it's way out of a paper bag in the middle of a rain >>>>storm, what would be the purpose in buying it? >>> >>>The recent tournaments have shown that Shredder is one leap ahead of all other >>>engines. I also know this based on my own experiments, as Shredder 8 is the only >>>engine that consistently scores above 50% against Falcon in my tests. >> >>That is a red flag. If Shredder is the _only_ engine that beats you in your >>tests, I'd personally be very concerned that my testing is badly flawed. IE if >>you can consistently beat fritz, you are doing something nobody else (except >>perhaps shredder) is doing... >> >> >> >> >>> >>>With that in mind, Diep's victory against Shredder is even more remarkable. Diep >>>might have also scored against Hydra, had Erdogan's book hadn't knocked out Diep >>>already in the opening stage. >>> >>>With a good book Diep might even pull off some surprises in the upcoming WCCC in >>>Israel, especially since it is not running on a massive parallel dinosaur that >>>apparently did it more harm than benefit in Graz. >>> >>> >>>>save you money and get crafty, you'll feel better afterwards :) >>> >>>Crafty is a great engine, and it is free. That doesn't mean that you shouldn't >>>be interested in other grandmaster-strength programs. > >I have suspicions about Omid's tests :) > >Before last WCCC he posted some results where Falcon won or drew every match >against top programs (4 game matches a 40/2), yet at Graz & CCT6 Falcon's >results were rather average. I think you simply cannot compare Fritz's >performance on a P3-733 with its performance on a quad xeon. My tests were conducted on the same hardware (P3 733MHz). In Graz I ran on a P4 2.4GHz while other programs benefited from considerably faster machines (in addition to parallelism). Additionally, in my tests I used fritz8.ctg for both sides. In Graz I used a random generated book which resulted in very poor positions for Falcon in almost all games. > >Of course, the other possibility is that Omid has bought a dual opteron and >worked like mad in secret to improve Falcon during the past months, while >attempting to deceive us by posting all his CCC results with his P3. WCCC04 >should shed some light on this. > >anthony
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