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Subject: Re: Vincent

Author: Arturo Ochoa

Date: 03:20:26 05/07/04

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>Crafty does very well in the premier division.
>Movei is fighting for promotion to the first division that is one division lower
>than the premier division.
>
>I do not know the difference in elo between the divisions.
>
>I know rating based on the nunn match at blitz
>http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/ratings/ratingsnunn.htm
>
>Crafty19.11    2699
>Movei 00_8_178 2552


Please, telll me, why do you compare monkeys with human beings, appples with
oranges. Do you think that I could take as a reference blitz games? In what
planet are you located? How do you mix a Nunn Match at Blitz Time control?

God...


>
>Difference is slightly more than 100 elo without considering the book factor.
>
>In Leo's rating list we have
>
>Crafty19.06        2596
>Movei 0.0.8.131    2415
>
>
>
>
>>
>>
>>>I plan to improve movei before the match(I already have a version that is
>>>probably better than the public version and I plan to release a better version
>>>in the next 10 days.
>>>
>>
>>You have mentioned in this forum that you have difficulties in improving your
>>current Movei. How do you plan to do that in 10 days? That is another Uri BlassĀ“
>>typical contradiction in order to begin another absurd discussion?
>
>I mentioned that I need to rewrite the code to make things more easy for me and
>to implement some things but I do not think that it means that it is hard to
>improve the current code.
>
>I am going to allow the users to change weights in the search and the evaluation
>and there is a good chance that it is possible to improve the program only by
>changing weights.
>

Basically, you have two strategies in this Forum:
1) You begin with a question to generate a disussion if you want to know
anything.
2) You introduce your engine topic: blah, blah, blah, blah, here and there...
when the topic was Crafty and Diep.
3) I am not interested how you will do anything in your program, so my mistake
is to begin a discussion when you introduce the Movei blah blah blah blah topic.
4) If you fall in contradictions to continue speaking about Movei, what you plan
is not my interest of the topic.


>>
>>
>>>Even 1.e4 a5 is not automatic loss and for black and seeing the result of a
>>>match of 40 games is going to be interesting.
>>>
>>
>>Try 1. e4 f6!! 2. d4 g5!! 3. Qh5++ Maybe you can win.....
>
>No
>
>The only reason for changing the first move in long matches is that it is the
>best solution that I have to avoid losing the same game again and again.
>
>In Leo's tournament I do not do it because the match is only of 4 games so it is
>enough to learn to change the first move after a loss.
>
>

I tell you again. I know what I must do as a chess player and book of any
engine. What you do in a simplistic way, it is not the topic.

I wont mix another point here about your Movei. If you want to reply all the
nonsense about your experienced way in openings, do it, but I wont begin another
thread of this topic. I know, how you go and go in tghe movei blah  blah blah
blah.



>
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>>Maybe a Movei-Diep match would be more interesting.
>>>
>>
>>Well, if you mention this nonsense... what should I take care of any proposal?
>>Movei must face engines of its level, but not Crafty or Diep... God....
>
>I see no reason.
>
>In Thorsten czub's tournament(120/40) it beated Fritz8,Yace,Mchess and drew with
>Rebel and Elchinito.

When you began to speak about blah blah blah Movei in the past, I test it a
little and It was not able to beat Terra in a long match and long controls.

Only, I can take as a seriour reference in medium time controls, the Leo D
Tournaments. In this sense, there are some considerations. For example, the King
is playing ouf of its Gui and without its original book.

I have not seen Movei in the first Official Tournament: if you participate in
the next WCC and you can beat, if you can do it, all the Amateur engine. I will
say: Yes, Uri Blass was right and he has made a remarkable progress and his
engine has progressed.

For a while, Movei is not in the same level of Crafty although you tell me that
Movei has the Kasparov level.


>
>Of course they are better than it and I did not mention the losses in this
>post(it has 4/11) but it is not without chances.
>
>>
>>>I prefer not to discuss about things that will never happen.
>>>Like hyatt I do not plan to bet about matches.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>Of course, this wont happen. How can it happen such a nonsense?
>
>It is not going to happen because I believe that Vincent is not going to release
>Diep in the near future.
>
>With Crafty it is dependent on the interest of users(I choose to use computer
>time for other purposes so it will be productive if users can help me to get
>data)
>
>Uri

Well, the topic was Crafty and Diep and you introduced yourseld the blah blah
blah blah blah Movei to trigger the topic in another direction. Of course, as
somebody has already suggested: Ignore the topic of this Guy in this Forum,
thing that is intelligent to adopt.

Continue, continue that I will read another more interesting thread. :)) Good
luck in your Movei monolog! :)))



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