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Subject: Re: new supercomputer!

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 09:48:32 05/13/04

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On May 13, 2004 at 08:03:17, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On May 13, 2004 at 07:56:28, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>On May 12, 2004 at 22:56:45, margolies,marc wrote:
>>
>>400 staff members, 12 megawatt, and just slightly faster than earth,
>>it all sounds stupid to me.
>
>400 staff members is of course too pathetic for words. 390 will be drinking
>coffee.
>
>>by the way, it won't be the fastest supercomputer at all.
>>
>>Note that they probably didn't order what they can get for their money in 2007
>>either. clever salesmen promise something that's far under what they can deliver
>>in 2007 for that price.
>>
>>Suppose you would order for 50 million the fastest opteron cluster available by
>>then.
>>
>>Let's assume $6000 a node using myrinet pci-x.
>>
>>each node dual chip opteron.
>>
>>by then of course 1 chip has 4 cores.
>
>1 node has 4 cores.

Or 1 node will have N chips, each of which will probably have 2-4 cores
depending on whether AMD delivers a 4-core opteron by then.


>
>>4 processors * (50000k$/6k$) = 8333 nodes * 4 processors = 33333 processors.
>>
>>Right now 2.2Ghz single processor opteorn delivers 4 gflops. By then we have of
>>course 0.065 at 4Ghz or so and delivering more a cycle.
>>
>>So 10 gflop is not unrealistic. 33333 * 10 gflop = 333333 gflop = 333 tflop.
>>
>>So just ordering 50 tflop for 50 million now they get ripped off. What they can
>>deliver now for 50 million is of course not even close what they can deliver by
>>then for 50 million.
>>
>>By the way IBM already is building a 1 pflop machine.
>>
>>>OAK RIDGE, Tenn., May 12 (UPI) -- Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham said
>>>Wednesday the Oak Ridge National Laboratory will build the world's most powerful
>>>supercomputer by 2007
>>>......
>>>The supercomputer will be housed in a new 170,000 square foot facility that
>>>includes room for 400 staff members in 40,000 square feet of space. The machines
>>>will run on 12 megawatts of power, which will be supplied by the Tennessee
>>>Valley Authority.



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