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Subject: Re: Chessmaster 10th Edition Announced

Author: Sandro Necchi

Date: 23:57:32 05/15/04

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On May 15, 2004 at 12:59:10, Odd Gunnar Malin wrote:

>On May 15, 2004 at 12:37:28, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>
>>On May 15, 2004 at 12:16:49, John Merlino wrote:
>>
>>>On May 15, 2004 at 03:57:03, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 14, 2004 at 17:16:03, John Merlino wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 14, 2004 at 15:42:13, Terry Giles wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On May 14, 2004 at 15:07:54, John Merlino wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Finally, there's something to see about the next version of Chessmaster
>>>>>>>(apparently officially called "Chessmaster 10th Edition"):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.ubi.com/US/Games/chessmasterx_pc.htm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>As expected (by me), the interface is entirely new, since the program is being
>>>>>>>developed by the same team that did the PS2 version.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>From what I can glean from the info on the website, it sounds like the majority
>>>>>>>of the work has gone into redesigning the UI and improving the online play. I
>>>>>>>don't see any new exciting tutorial/analysis features, other than Johan's new
>>>>>>>version of The King.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>So it sounds like they're going to sell the program based on the merits of the
>>>>>>>new interface.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I also see a hint that there is an Xbox version in the works as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>As for an official release date, there isn't one mentioned.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Enjoy!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>jm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks for the info John, sad to say that all the screenshots shown are of
>>>>>>'arty-farty' chesspieces and board combinations. I'm currently running CM9k on a
>>>>>>PII @ 400Mhz, so unless I go for a major upgrade PC wise, the CM10th anniversary
>>>>>>program will prove too demanding for my computer!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>tag
>>>>>
>>>>>Yep, the min spec says P3-450, so I don't think this will be for you.
>>>>>
>>>>>But I would definitely say it's time to upgrade, especially if you are a fan of
>>>>>computer chess!
>>>>>
>>>>>jm
>>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>
>>>>will this new version include the auto232 option?
>>>>
>>>>Sandro
>>>
>>>I'm pretty sure that Johan said that it would not.
>>>
>>>jm
>>
>>I was thinking about the SSDF people that may would like to test it...so the
>>answer is:
>>
>>no:-((
>>
>>I personally do not buy any chess program without the auto232 as I think it is a
>>MUST option today.
>>This means I will not buy it no matter what...how...etc...
>>
>>Sandro
>
>Wow! how many buyers use this option?

More than you would think because since the chess programs are too strong for
the majority of the people, in order to find out if the program is better than
the one/ones they were using before they set a match to find out.
In order to do it the auto232 option is the best as you can leave the programs
play for some days and get an answer.

>A more needed feature would be DGT support. It is a playing program.
>
>I have only three rating levels in my list:
>1. Good for analyses.
>2. Nice to play against.
>3. Too buggy.

I agree, but the the program should also include a professional opening book
too. If a program is out of book after 5 or 6 moves in general I put it away and
do not look at it anymore...I get very upset about it as well as to me it would
be a waste of money...

2. Without the auto232 I do not buy it. I specifically ask this. If it is not
included...I am not interested on that one AT ALL.

3. Bugs that do not let the program play well or that stop the games make me
really furious...since I cannot kill who made them I check immediately how to
fix them...I believe good testing would avoid that...

3. Option for connecting the chess program to chess boards are appreciated, but
I do not use them anymore...

>
>Chessmaster, and also the new Shredder and Rebel, add them self into both level
>1 and 2.
>To try to find out how good the engine is for analyses you don't want to look at
>some computer rating list, there are other methodes that gives you much more
>input.
>
>And for the SSDF list, there was some times when they tried to find the strength
>of engines to help people to do an estimate but this time is long gone because
>programs are specialized to do it good on this list without they taking any
>means to avoid it.


Yes, I agree. To me the only way is to check the games and not specific
positions.
Buy ehecking the games one check the "complete program"; I mean the opening
book, the chess engine and the TBs capabilities for the endgames.

>
>Odd Gunnar

Sandro



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