Author: Sandro Necchi
Date: 00:57:22 05/16/04
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On May 16, 2004 at 02:57:32, Sandro Necchi wrote: >On May 15, 2004 at 12:59:10, Odd Gunnar Malin wrote: > >>On May 15, 2004 at 12:37:28, Sandro Necchi wrote: >> >>>On May 15, 2004 at 12:16:49, John Merlino wrote: >>> >>>>On May 15, 2004 at 03:57:03, Sandro Necchi wrote: >>>> >>>>>On May 14, 2004 at 17:16:03, John Merlino wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On May 14, 2004 at 15:42:13, Terry Giles wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On May 14, 2004 at 15:07:54, John Merlino wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Finally, there's something to see about the next version of Chessmaster >>>>>>>>(apparently officially called "Chessmaster 10th Edition"): >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>http://www.ubi.com/US/Games/chessmasterx_pc.htm >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>As expected (by me), the interface is entirely new, since the program is being >>>>>>>>developed by the same team that did the PS2 version. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>From what I can glean from the info on the website, it sounds like the majority >>>>>>>>of the work has gone into redesigning the UI and improving the online play. I >>>>>>>>don't see any new exciting tutorial/analysis features, other than Johan's new >>>>>>>>version of The King. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>So it sounds like they're going to sell the program based on the merits of the >>>>>>>>new interface. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I also see a hint that there is an Xbox version in the works as well. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>As for an official release date, there isn't one mentioned. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Enjoy! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>jm >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Thanks for the info John, sad to say that all the screenshots shown are of >>>>>>>'arty-farty' chesspieces and board combinations. I'm currently running CM9k on a >>>>>>>PII @ 400Mhz, so unless I go for a major upgrade PC wise, the CM10th anniversary >>>>>>>program will prove too demanding for my computer! >>>>>>> >>>>>>>tag >>>>>> >>>>>>Yep, the min spec says P3-450, so I don't think this will be for you. >>>>>> >>>>>>But I would definitely say it's time to upgrade, especially if you are a fan of >>>>>>computer chess! >>>>>> >>>>>>jm >>>>> >>>>>Hi, >>>>> >>>>>will this new version include the auto232 option? >>>>> >>>>>Sandro >>>> >>>>I'm pretty sure that Johan said that it would not. >>>> >>>>jm >>> >>>I was thinking about the SSDF people that may would like to test it...so the >>>answer is: >>> >>>no:-(( >>> >>>I personally do not buy any chess program without the auto232 as I think it is a >>>MUST option today. >>>This means I will not buy it no matter what...how...etc... >>> >>>Sandro >> >>Wow! how many buyers use this option? > >More than you would think because since the chess programs are too strong for >the majority of the people, in order to find out if the program is better than >the one/ones they were using before they set a match to find out. >In order to do it the auto232 option is the best as you can leave the programs >play for some days and get an answer. > >>A more needed feature would be DGT support. It is a playing program. >> >>I have only three rating levels in my list: >>1. Good for analyses. >>2. Nice to play against. >>3. Too buggy. > >I agree, but the the program should also include a professional opening book >too. If a program is out of book after 5 or 6 moves in general I put it away and >do not look at it anymore...I get very upset about it as well as to me it would >be a waste of money... > >2. Without the auto232 I do not buy it. I specifically ask this. If it is not >included...I am not interested on that one AT ALL. I want to add that this is also done by most of the chess players/computer chess fans I know...not only by me. > >3. Bugs that do not let the program play well or that stop the games make me >really furious...since I cannot kill who made them I check immediately how to >fix them...I believe good testing would avoid that... > >3. Option for connecting the chess program to chess boards are appreciated, but >I do not use them anymore... > >> >>Chessmaster, and also the new Shredder and Rebel, add them self into both level >>1 and 2. >>To try to find out how good the engine is for analyses you don't want to look at >>some computer rating list, there are other methodes that gives you much more >>input. >> >>And for the SSDF list, there was some times when they tried to find the strength >>of engines to help people to do an estimate but this time is long gone because >>programs are specialized to do it good on this list without they taking any >>means to avoid it. > > >Yes, I agree. To me the only way is to check the games and not specific >positions. >Buy ehecking the games one check the "complete program"; I mean the opening >book, the chess engine and the TBs capabilities for the endgames. > >> >>Odd Gunnar > >Sandro
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